The state of punk today.

When did punk become about knowing less, fighting authority just for the sake of it, trying to be ignorant, ignoring obvious facts about racial issues, and not trying to learn anything because learning makes you "brainwashed"?

A bunch of users here have led me to the conclusion about the modern "punk scene". Well, moreso, people I've met in real life at punk shows have led me to this conclusion, and the people here just remind me of it.

Since when was punk just about rebellion, without thought or idea as to what you're rebelling against? When did it become about rebellion to feed your own self-centered needs - to ignore obvious fact just to make it so you don't have to change - to claim the rest of the world is the world that needs to change?

[oigrrrl805]

What the hell do you know about racial issues? heck you ignore them as well and most of the time overreact over nothing!

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by oigrrrl805

What the hell do you know about racial issues? heck you ignore them as well and most of the time overreact over nothing!

Holy Hell....

Another comment from the peanut gallery..

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by jonhomeowner

When did punk become about knowing less, fighting authority just for the sake of it, trying to be ignorant, ignoring obvious facts about racial issues, and not trying to learn anything because learning makes you "brainwashed"?

A bunch of users here have led me to the conclusion about the modern "punk scene". Well, moreso, people I've met in real life at punk shows have led me to this conclusion, and the people here just remind me of it.

Since when was punk just about rebellion, without thought or idea as to what you're rebelling against? When did it become about rebellion to feed your own self-centered needs - to ignore obvious fact just to make it so you don't have to change - to claim the rest of the world is the world that needs to change?

I think it goes down to the whole "Ignorance is Bliss" thing...
They're happy being the way they are, so they don't even try to improve themselves.
It's sad, really..

Originally Posted by oigrrrl805

What the hell do you know about racial issues? heck you ignore them as well and most of the time overreact over nothing!

Nothing to you. But when I "overreact" as you call it, I'm almost always reacting to something that is a big deal to minorities, whether you understand it as such (which you never do) or not.

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

I think it goes down to the whole "Ignorance is Bliss" thing...
They're happy being the way they are, so they don't even try to improve themselves.
It's sad, really..

Unfortunately, that is what it seems is going on. Ignorance is bliss... It makes them happy.

Which goes back to my point about it being about rebellion that is self-serving now.

[bruisedballs]

Originally Posted by jonhomeowner

When did punk become about knowing less, fighting authority just for the sake of it, trying to be ignorant, ignoring obvious facts about racial issues, and not trying to learn anything because learning makes you "brainwashed"?

A bunch of users here have led me to the conclusion about the modern "punk scene". Well, moreso, people I've met in real life at punk shows have led me to this conclusion, and the people here just remind me of it.

Since when was punk just about rebellion, without thought or idea as to what you're rebelling against? When did it become about rebellion to feed your own self-centered needs - to ignore obvious fact just to make it so you don't have to change - to claim the rest of the world is the world that needs to change?

Amen to that! shits near dead as far as i can tell just rebels without a cause mostly

[theofflight]

Being vegan and playing in d.i.y punk bands for the last 16 years of my life i am finding it harder and harder in the u.k scene which is getting more about fucking hair do's than issues and the music. It is nice to hear people still give a fuck in this world, rather than spending more time in front of the mirror than actually being active in something meaningful. Balls balls balls. I hate to moan. I hate to hate too but you got me started, sorry

Originally Posted by jonhomeowner

When did punk become about knowing less, fighting authority just for the sake of it, trying to be ignorant, ignoring obvious facts about racial issues, and not trying to learn anything because learning makes you "brainwashed"?

A bunch of users here have led me to the conclusion about the modern "punk scene". Well, moreso, people I've met in real life at punk shows have led me to this conclusion, and the people here just remind me of it.

Since when was punk just about rebellion, without thought or idea as to what you're rebelling against? When did it become about rebellion to feed your own self-centered needs - to ignore obvious fact just to make it so you don't have to change - to claim the rest of the world is the world that needs to change?

I blame emos.

Originally Posted by Joe Kersten

I blame emos.

Well, duh.

They're the one thing punks SHOULD be rebelling against!