afropunk

[sarisucks]

Has anyone seen this documentary? I just watched it and it was awesome.

[ChrisJones]

I've seen alot of those cats at New York shows. crazy

[green_machine]

Has anyone seen this documentary? I just watched it and it was awesome.

Yeah, but what made it awesome for you?

[Sebastian]

lets make everything racial!
theres nothing special about you if your black and you like punk music which is mostly a white thing
and there is nothing special about if your white and you like rap/r&b which is mostly a black thing
get over your skin color

:mad:"hes ignorant!"

[Riff]

The whole thing seemed very contradicting.
And 75% of those bands were "hardcore" with breakdowns and growling and all. Didn't really see much about actual punk rock. Not a whole lot of history either. How about some more on Bad Brians, Pure Hell, etc? At least touch on Scream, Whipping Boy, Special Forces, Suicidal Tendencies, The Fix, Fishbone, Faith No More, JFA, Secret Hate, Urban Waste, YDI, McRad....

This subject deserved a much better film.

[green_machine]

The whole thing seemed very contradicting.
And 75% of those bands were "hardcore" with breakdowns and growling and all. Didn't really see much about actual punk rock. Not a whole lot of history either. How about some more on Bad Brians, Pure Hell, etc? At least touch on Scream, Whipping Boy, Special Forces, Suicidal Tendencies, The Fix, Fishbone, Faith No More, JFA, Secret Hate, Urban Waste, YDI, McRad....

This subject deserved a much better film.

Does anyone really need another history lesson on punk? There are plenty of other documentaries and books that do more than a good job of covering it. The idea was to touch on a concept and explore it not show off a bunch of bands. They make DVDs for that too.

[Riff]

Does anyone really need another history lesson on punk? There are plenty of other documentaries and books that do more than a good job of covering it. The idea was to touch on a concept and explore it not show off a bunch of bands. They make DVDs for that too.

Well then, the title was misleading. It was called "Afropunk", not "Afronew-hardcore".

[green_machine]

Well then, the title was misleading. It was called "Afropunk", not "Afronew-hardcore".

I think they called it Afropunk because they were talking about the culture in terms of seperation, social structure and assimilation into a kind of "whiteness". And the Afro was a slangy sort of refrence to blacks. I dunno I just thought it was more culture oriented than it was to the music so I'm not bent out of shape. No, I don't use the term African-American because not all of em' are from Africa.

[sarisucks]

Here is my explanation:

One of my favorite books is called "Pretty In Punk: Girls' Gender Resistance In A Boy's Subculture" and I really related to it. Being a grrl in the punk scene, especially around here, is just different. I live in a very small town and punks themselves are hard to come by. Most of my friends are guys since not a lot of grrls are into punk. But having punk grrl friends is something that is incomparable to punk guy friends. Guys can understand what it may feel like to be a grrl punker, but they haven't lived it. In the beginning, they equated being a woman in the punk scene to being black in the punk scene, which I can believe. Therefore, from the beginning of the documentary, I could somewhat relate to what the kids featured were feeling, in terms of having to assimilate to expectations of being a punk.
It was interesting to see actual testimonies from black punkers. My best friend is a Latina punk and we've talked extensively about how she feels in the punk scene but we personally don't know any black punkers. It was intriguing to hear about their experiences and the expectations that are set on them by both the black and punk communities and how they straddle the two. I believe that race is primarily a social difference and not a biological one, but yes, there are extensive differences between races, even in the punk scene.
Overall, I appreciated it because it explored the lifestyles of a minority group in a minority subculture. Comparing and contrasting cultures, beliefs and expectations is something that is very vital to Sociology and Anthropology alike, which are my major and minor in University, respectively.
I don't think this documentary is positive discrimination, or whatever the fuck you would call it. It simply gave an alternative point of view from punks and how they feel about the scene. I didn't focus on the racial aspect, which is what most people do. Non-whites and women are minorities in the subculture, period. They also just happen to be minorities in general as well. So the fuck what? If you don't like the idea and think it's purely racial, then don't watch it.

[Sebastian]

Get a culture reality check and come to Southern California.

[sarisucks]

Thank you for the suggestion, I would love to come visit.

[green_machine]

Get a culture reality check and come to Southern California.

California doesn't count its a country of its own. :rolleyes:

[ChrisJones]

Get a culture reality check and come to Southern California.

culture?

You mean all the rockstar wannabes that throw their lives away to "make it big"
or the struggling actors that flock to "make it big"
or the mexicans that flock to "make it big"
seems like a culture of greed


thank you hollywood for providing providing a variety of talent of shitty overpaid actors, paparrazi magazines, economy wrecking illegal immigrant employers, reality TV shows, and bullshit manufactured music.

At least they got Porn and Gay People, and Gay People doing Porn

where's the art for arts sake?

[Smooth]

California doesn't count its a country of its own. :rolleyes:


It's more like the armpit of the United States.


Or the unwiped anus.

[sarisucks]

Or the unwiped anus.



I thought that was New Jersey...?