Dear cutters and bleeders

[oldsklgrl]

After going through 100+ pictures on this site I have three words for you;

Borderline Personality Disorder.

[dead_head]

lol. "I like to sit in my corner and cut myself with the shards of my broken heart!"

[THE UNDEAD]

Stop wasting all that blood. Let us slice you up and we'll snack on you while we are at it.

THE UNDEAD

[administrator]

they are young..............

[ThePope]

if you've looked at 100 pics on this site then you've looked at 100 more than me

[Spiralz]

I have that, but have never had cutting tendencies.

[Danny Montez]

i havnt looked at any. dont really need to look at rough yanks.

[oyster boy]

Cries for attention.
Sad.

[dead_head]

i know many people are all all scarred up from cutting. they're really cool but they have odd habits. i really don't think its a big deal as long as they don't hurt other people. Its pretty much the same thing as going in to get branded.

[Nips]

yeah, i know some seriously scarred people from self harm. its a pretty complex disorder, not really about attention seeking at all. most have their scars well hidden and are quite ashamed when theyre spotted.

[oldsklgrl]

I just kept hitting "next" on the picture/gallery...Seriously if you cut yourself for no other reason than to "feel pain" or because it's "cool" there is a problem. If you do it for tribal or decorative purposes fine it's no different than a piercing or a tattoo.

Nips those that are ashamed have probably grown up and realized what they did. And I'm not saying they can't be "nice" people I'm just saying know why you do it, if you do it for the wrong reason seek professional help.

[dead_head]

yeah, i know some seriously scarred people from self harm. its a pretty complex disorder, not really about attention seeking at all. most have their scars well hidden and are quite ashamed when theyre spotted.


i remember i carved a heart into my leg just out of curiousity a couple years ago. i wanted to know why they do it. If anything all it did was help me pass time. it will always be hidden as far as im concerned. i feel bad for the ones that have names and words carved into thier arms.

[jonhomeowner]

A scientific article on people that cut:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Cutters

[Nips]

Nips those that are ashamed have probably grown up and realized what they did. And I'm not saying they can't be "nice" people I'm just saying know why you do it, if you do it for the wrong reason seek professional help.


well, i dont think theres a right reason haha. some people will do it cause they think its cool to be troubled or whatever. theyre just assholes, prolly always will be.

im had one girl explain her side of it to me and, altho it didnt make much sense to me, i could see her reasoning. she wasnt covered or anything, just had two or three little scars on the out side of her fore arm. her reasoning was simple self loathing. she did it so for that wee moment, the pain, would allow her to forget all the other stuff going on in her life. so i guess to her it was cathartic. to me, it just seems like it would add to her problems, but then, ive always been comfortable with me, so its hard to empathise.

[oyster boy]

yeah, i know some seriously scarred people from self harm. its a pretty complex disorder, not really about attention seeking at all. most have their scars well hidden and are quite ashamed when theyre spotted.


No, no, I agree with that. I'm just saying people who cut themselves and then take pictures of it and post it on a forum are probably looking for needed attention that they're not getting from their family or something.. Like you said.. if it wasn't, and it was purely for personal struggles, they wouldn't be showing it off but rather keeping it hidden.

I personally don't understand cutting. Depression and self-loathing is almost always a period of someones life that they will grow out of (hopefully), and to have scars from that period would just be a terrible reminder.
Or a reminder of how they overcame that phase.
Or something else.
I don't really know. Like I said, I don't really understand it.

[Spiralz]

No, no, I agree with that. I'm just saying people who cut themselves and then take pictures of it and post it on a forum are probably looking for needed attention that they're not getting from their family or something.. Like you said.. if it wasn't, and it was purely for personal struggles, they wouldn't be showing it off but rather keeping it hidden.

I personally don't understand cutting. Depression and self-loathing is almost always a period of someones life that they will grow out of (hopefully), and to have scars from that period would just be a terrible reminder.
Or a reminder of how they overcame that phase.
Or something else.
I don't really know. Like I said, I don't really understand it.

^Sometimes it can be a passing faze due to youthful angst and the depression that comes with it, but for the most part cutters tend to be people with acute forms of mental illness, such as borderline personality disorder which have to be treated with intense therapy, and medication. Cutting is for the most part a coping mechanism to deal with the severe mental anguish that the sufferers experience; it's used to divert their attention. I have a long standing battle with mental illness so this isn't speculatory information.

[KidoftheBlackHole]

Remember, up the river not across the stream.

[oldsklgrl]

Here's what the Mayo Clinic has to say:

Borderline personality disorder affects how people feel about themselves, how they relate to others and how they behave.

People with BPD often have an unstable sense of who they are. That is, their self-image or sense of self often rapidly changes. They typically view themselves as evil or bad, and sometimes they may feel as if they don't exist at all. This unstable self-image can lead to frequent changes in jobs, friendships, goals, values and gender identity.

Relationships are usually in turmoil. People with BPD often experience a love-hate relationship with others. They may idealize someone one moment and then abruptly and dramatically shift to fury and hate over perceived slights or even misunderstandings. This is because people with the disorder have difficulty accepting gray areas — things are either black or white. For instance, in the eyes of a person with BPD, someone is either good or evil. And that same person may be good one day and evil the next.

In addition, people with BPD often engage in impulsive and risky behavior. This behavior often winds up hurting them, whether emotionally, financially or physically. For instance, they may drive recklessly, engage in unsafe sex, take illicit drugs or go on spending or gambling sprees. People with BPD also often engage in suicidal behavior or deliberately injure themselves for emotional relief.

Again seek help.

[Spiralz]

^I only recently this past year got diagnosed, and let me tell you I'm glad because I finally understand what's going on with my head, and that in itself gives me a new sense of complacency, but so does DBT therapy. Sorry, I needed to let that out due to the subject matter of the thread.

[TrainWreck]

i was told, that people with bpd can not help this disorder. what's sad to me, is its something that people are made to feel ashamed of, or embarased about. its no different than someone having asthma or some sort of birth defect, yet the ridicule these people go through can add to the dificulties they already face on a daily basis.
one of my best friends commited suicide because he just didnt know how to cope. people can only use the "tools" they know to use, a lot of people dont know the "tools" that are out there, and are needed. not to mention, getting help for these issues is hard. if you want to get quality care you have to pay for it, otherwise youre using shitty health care. and that is frustrating enough to make a person not want to deal with it at all.

[Noodles]

i was told, that people with bpd can not help this disorder. what's sad to me, is its something that people are made to feel ashamed of, or embarased about. its no different than someone having asthma or some sort of birth defect, yet the ridicule these people go through can add to the dificulties they already face on a daily basis.
one of my best friends commited suicide because he just didnt know how to cope. people can only use the "tools" they know to use, a lot of people dont know the "tools" that are out there, and are needed. not to mention, getting help for these issues is hard. if you want to get quality care you have to pay for it, otherwise youre using shitty health care. and that is frustrating enough to make a person not want to deal with it at all.

Agreed.

People who cut themselves often experience a 'high' because the body releases a natural pain killer into the body. This would explain why there are quite a few people out there that cut, or harm themselves and say they've had a religious experience.

Also, I'd like to say that people with Borderline Personality Disorder can receive help. There are quite a few people such as myself that have an 8 year degree in psychology that volunteer their time either by helping people in their religion, helping batter children, and women etc. Also, there are quite a few students that have been going to school for 6 or 7 years that intern.

I know that seeking medical attention for certain mental, or emotional issues is costly...but like I said, there are quite a few people that do volunteer, you just need to look quite a bit harder.

Just because you have B.P.D doesn't mean that your psychotic, or that you'll be locked up in a mental institution, it just means that you need to try a lot harder than others to feel okay. And believe me, that is okay.

I suffer from PTSD...and I'm just fine. I've gone to school for 8 years, I'm very happily married, I don't take any medication for it. I have to try harder to feel okay than some, but that's okay...because once you get the technique down it's not that hard.

Anyone out there that is suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder, or Post Traumatic Stress Disorder feel free to private message me...I'll help in anyway. Also, remember you're not alone...and you'll be okay.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[oldsklgrl]

Agreed.


Also, I'd like to say that people with Borderline Personality Disorder can receive help. There are quite a few people such as myself that have an 8 year degree in psychology that volunteer their time either by helping people in their religion, helping batter children, and women etc. Also, there are quite a few students that have been going to school for 6 or 7 years that intern.


PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

Totally off subject...You're 22 you have an 8 year degree, so you graduated high school at 16 correct (I know it's possible, just curious)? You have an 8 (4 under grad and 4 post grad) year degree in psychology, so you're a psychologist not a psychiatrist? Or do you have a medical school degree and you're in your residency now? I asked you this before, but I'm guessing you missed that thread.

[GunStreetGirl]

Totally off subject...You're 22 you have an 8 year degree, so you graduated high school at 16 correct (I know it's possible, just curious)? You have an 8 (4 under grad and 4 post grad) year degree in psychology, so you're a psychologist not a psychiatrist? Or do you have a medical school degree and you're in your residency now? I asked you this before, but I'm guessing you missed that thread.


HaHa...THAT'S RAD!! I'm glad you caught that too. We were just trying to figure that out ourselves. But she would have had to start at 14, right? Hmmmm......

[jonhomeowner]

HaHa...THAT'S RAD!! I'm glad you caught that too. We were just trying to figure that out ourselves. But she would have had to start at 14, right? Hmmmm......
I caught on to her lies long ago.

She's claimed she's 32 at some points, though.

Maybe 22 was a typo? (depending on where you are all getting it from)

[TrainWreck]

hey give the chick a break. maybe she's a genius.
of course a genius would probably be able to figure out how to look at the gallery pictures.
sorry, im trying here.

[x_punksrawks_X]

She looks 30+

[thebigother]

My theory is that she's confused being a psychiatrist with needing a psychiatrist.

[Noodles]

Totally off subject...You're 22 you have an 8 year degree, so you graduated high school at 16 correct (I know it's possible, just curious)? You have an 8 (4 under grad and 4 post grad) year degree in psychology, so you're a psychologist not a psychiatrist? Or do you have a medical school degree and you're in your residency now? I asked you this before, but I'm guessing you missed that thread.

Yes, I'm twenty two. I graduated high school at 14, because I worked my ass off all day, and all night...not to mention the fact that my parents pushed me pretty hard. Anyways, I got into college when I was almost 15 with a full ride scholarship for my art work, as well as for the 4.0 grade point average that I had maintained since 7th grade. It's not only that, but also while I was still in high school I was already taking college classes, therefore I already had quite a few credits. So yes, it has gone by a bit faster than most.

I'm not a genius, and I've never claimed to be one. Yet, I am someone who is dedicated to anything I start, also I'm a very hard worker. Everyone in this message board could do the exact same thing as me if they just tried.

Yes, I am a psychiatrist. I'm certified in treating mental illnesses, and yes I can prescribe psychiatric medication, conduct physical examinations, order and interpret laboratory tests, and electroencephalograms, and may order brain imaging studies such as computer tomography or computed axial tomography, magnetic resonance imaging, and positron emission scanning tomography. The difference between psychologists, and psychiatrists is even though their both doctorate level physicians psychiatrists can prescribe medication, and also psychiatrists spend their entire graduate education learning about mental illness, followed by supervised interning (which is what I'm doing at the moment). Did I mention that I was a psychologist a few times? I apologize if I did.

I'm currently taking some night classes based on art history, and some surrealism painting classes...because this is one of my passions.

About me asking how to look at the picture gallery, I've done some pretty ditsy things in my lifetime...but I'm not really embarrassed about them. After all, who's perfect? I'm proud of every flaw I have...it makes Noodles, Noodles.

Anyway, I don't think I look 30...but then again I'm not the most photogenic person in the world...very interesting though. Especially considering the fact that in some of those pictures I'm only 19... in fact, I suggest you look at all of my pictures. Anyways, if I do look older it's probably because I haven't gotten much sleep since I was 13....or I'm not wearing makeup in the picture your looking at.

I don't really mind if you kids don't think I'm telling the truth about my schooling...but I have...and really don't feel the need or desire to have to become defensive, and explain myself twenty times over.

If you have sincere questions regarding how I got where I am today, PM me.

Back to the main point, if anyone here is having troubling thoughts, just PM me. I'll do everything I can to help.

(I love how whenever I post anything the subject always turns around, and comes back to talking about me...)


PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[Noodles]

I caught on to her lies long ago.

She's claimed she's 32 at some points, though.

Maybe 22 was a typo? (depending on where you are all getting it from)

I would never claim to be 32.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[Noodles]

My theory is that she's confused being a psychiatrist with needing a psychiatrist.

I do have a psychiatrist, and most psychiatrists have another psychiatrist their going to as well.

It's hard to hear 20 different people's problems all in one day. There's a lot of anxiety that's involved with treating unhappy people, I constantly worry for them.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[x_punksrawks_X]

Hahaha

[thebigother]

I've always been interested in psychoanalysis. Maybe something to pursue some day, but right now I am in no mood for school.

[GunStreetGirl]

Yes, I'm twenty two. I graduated high school at 14, because I worked my ass off all day, and all night...not to mention the fact that my parents pushed me pretty hard. Anyways, I got into college when I was almost 15 with a full ride scholarship for my art work, as well as for the 4.0 grade point average that I had maintained since 7th grade. It's not only that, but also while I was still in high school I was already taking college classes, therefore I already had quite a few credits. So yes, it has gone by a bit faster than most.

I'm not a genius, and I've never claimed to be one. Yet, I am someone who is dedicated to anything I start, also I'm a very hard worker. Everyone in this message board could do the exact same thing as me if they just tried.

Yes, I am a psychiatrist. I'm certified in treating mental illnesses, and yes I can prescribe psychiatric medication, conduct physical examinations, order and interpret laboratory tests, and electroencephalograms, and may order brain imaging studies such as computer tomography or computed axial tomography, magnetic resonance imaging, and positron emission scanning tomography. The difference between psychologists, and psychiatrists is even though their both doctorate level physicians psychiatrists can prescribe medication, and also psychiatrists spend their entire graduate education learning about mental illness, followed by supervised interning (which is what I'm doing at the moment). Did I mention that I was a psychologist a few times? I apologize if I did.

I'm currently taking some night classes based on art history, and some surrealism painting classes...because this is one of my passions.

About me asking how to look at the picture gallery, I've done some pretty ditsy things in my lifetime...but I'm not really embarrassed about them. After all, who's perfect? I'm proud of every flaw I have...it makes Noodles, Noodles.

Anyway, I don't think I look 30...but then again I'm not the most photogenic person in the world...very interesting though. Especially considering the fact that in some of those pictures I'm only 19... in fact, I suggest you look at all of my pictures. Anyways, if I do look older it's probably because I haven't gotten much sleep since I was 13....or I'm not wearing makeup in the picture your looking at.

I don't really mind if you kids don't think I'm telling the truth about my schooling...but I have...and really don't feel the need or desire to have to become defensive, and explain myself twenty times over.

If you have sincere questions regarding how I got where I am today, PM me.

Back to the main point, if anyone here is having troubling thoughts, just PM me. I'll do everything I can to help.

(I love how whenever I post anything the subject always turns around, and comes back to talking about me...)


PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles


No offense, but in my opinion a child at that age is just not emotionally developed enough to completely comprehend what it is they are actually studying. I mean, intellectually they may be smart enough to pull it off, but as far as having life experience, empathy, and the emotional maturity, It just doesn't seem like such a great idea. I would be more inclined to trust and value the health "professional", who has a lot more wisdom (which does come with age).
And really, anyone can go to Wikipedia, type in "psychiatrist", and give the job description.

[thebigother]

C'mon now. That's like saying you wouldn't trust Doogie Howser to perform surgery on you. Perposterus!

[GunStreetGirl]

C'mon now. That's like saying you wouldn't trust Doogie Howser to perform surgery on you. Perposterus!

HaHa....DOOGIE HOWSER. He might be the only exception. :p

[Noodles]

No offense, but in my opinion a child at that age is just not emotionally developed enough to completely comprehend what it is they are actually studying. I mean, intellectually they may be smart enough to pull it off, but as far as having life experience, empathy, and the emotional maturity, It just doesn't seem like such a great idea. I would be more inclined to trust and value the health "professional", who has a lot more wisdom (which does come with age).
And really, anyone can go to Wikipedia, type in "psychiatrist", and give the job description.

No offense at all taken..

I would agree with you, at 14ish it is hard to comprehend certain aspects of the human mind. Yet, I've always been a very empathetic person...and I've always had a very strong desire to understand the way people think, and also had a desire to help people.

I do agree with you that wisdom is very important, and I would see why certain people would rather not go to a young woman. When people meet me their first caught off guard because of my age, and usually I can see that they feel a bit uncomfortable. When I start talking, explaining the goals that I would like them to have...and explain my background then I almost always get the person to realize that just because I'm so young...doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Obviously the school I went to doesn't let any fourteen year old child in, so I did have to go through quite a bit of pre-qualifying.

Anyway, yeah I used wikipedia for the definition. I was too lazy to type it up myself, in fact I do that quite often on this message board.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[jonhomeowner]

Proof that Noodles is a liar.

In this post she said she graduated at 14, and got into college at 15.

Yes, I'm twenty two. I graduated high school at 14, because I worked my ass off all day, and all night...not to mention the fact that my parents pushed me pretty hard. Anyways, I got into college when I was almost 15 with a full ride scholarship for my art work, as well as for the 4.0 grade point average that I had maintained since 7th grade. It's not only that, but also while I was still in high school I was already taking college classes, therefore I already had quite a few credits. So yes, it has gone by a bit faster than most.

Previously, she wrote this:

I graduated high school at 15 years old, started going college a year after that with a full scholarship in Art, as well as literature. I'm still in college right now, trying to get my PH.D in psychology.

http://www.punkrockers.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=348&page=9

Apparently, she also finished her PhD since two months, if you believe anything she writes.

From this post:
Yes, I am a psychiatrist. I'm certified in treating mental illnesses, and yes I can prescribe psychiatric medication, conduct physical examinations, order and interpret laboratory tests, and electroencephalograms, and may order brain imaging studies such as computer tomography or computed axial tomography, magnetic resonance imaging, and positron emission scanning tomography. The difference between psychologists, and psychiatrists is even though their both doctorate level physicians psychiatrists can prescribe medication, and also psychiatrists

According to her, she is a doctorate level physician ("I am a psychiatrist," she said). Somehow, two months ago (7-19-07), she was still in college trying to finish her degree. You don't finish a PhD over the summer. That just doesn't happen, because they wouldn't offer such classes during the summer. Furthermore, if she was really THAT close to finishing it, wouldn't she mention it?

Also note that in the first example, she mentions a 4.0 GPA in one post, but yet something about "literature" in the other.

None of it adds up... Give it up, Noodles, you can't even keep your lies straight anymore.