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[Noodlesflyhigh]

I'm sure that most of you identify yourself with a particular religion, whether it is Catholic, Jewish, or your an Atheist...I'd like to ask you a question.

I've noticed something lately that has been happening quite a bit. I've talked with people that are getting pamplets on their cars, talking about how horrible my religion is.

It's starting to really piss me off.

What would you do?

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[x_punksrawks_X]

I believe in parts of different religions

[bunniegraves]

im not sure, but i think it may be illegal to leave things like that on peoples cars. i would look into it, and if possible, get it on tape and turn the person in.

[Noodles]

Why would you get in trouble for putting a flyer on someone's car?

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[bunniegraves]

Why would you get in trouble for putting a flyer on someone's car?

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

thats just what ive heard. that its not legal to leave flyers on peoples cars. the same way its illegal to put something in someones mailbox because it didnt come through the post. again, i could be wrong, but it wouldnt hurt to check it out

[Mr_Jude]

thats just what ive heard. that its not legal to leave flyers on peoples cars. the same way its illegal to put something in someones mailbox because it didnt come through the post. again, i could be wrong, but it wouldnt hurt to check it out
There's a huge difference there.

Putting a one in someone's mailbox implies that it's mail, making it mail fraud. Putting it one on someone's car implies nothing other than somebody feels like putting something on your car.

It's not illegal - in fact, there are job offers in the newspaper to do exactly that.

Anyway, Noodles always talks about "her religion", but she never tells us what it is.

Maybe your religion IS evil, Noodles.

[Noodles]

There's a huge difference there.

Putting a one in someone's mailbox implies that it's mail, making it mail fraud. Putting it one on someone's car implies nothing other than somebody feels like putting something on your car.

It's not illegal - in fact, there are job offers in the newspaper to do exactly that.

Anyway, Noodles always talks about "her religion", but she never tells us what it is.

Maybe your religion IS evil, Noodles.

Bunnie, Jude is correct.

Anyways, I thought I had mentioned it before?

I'm part of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.

By the way, we're not evil.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[Mr_Jude]

Bunnie, Jude is correct.

Anyways, I thought I had mentioned it before?

I'm part of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.

By the way, we're not evil.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles
I was really hoping you'd say that, because I've been wanting to use an image I have.

Now I have to go back and edit the post in the Illegal Immigrant topic.

[Noodles]

I guess it does make sense that the true church is always going to be bashed upon...

It always has been, and always will be.

I guess I just need to suck it up.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[Mr_Jude]

I guess it does make sense that the true church is always going to be bashed upon...

It always has been, and always will be.

I guess I just need to suck it up.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH!

[bunniegraves]

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH!
which ripped off Paganism. so that must mean the true way is the way of the pagan? buncha naked freaks.

[Mr_Jude]

which ripped off Paganism. so that must mean the true way is the way of the pagan? buncha naked freaks.
Do not use words which you do not understand. Pagan is one of those words.

Please explain what you mean, without using the terms "pagan" or "paganism", as they are very broad terms that you do not specify anything in particular.

Then we will have an intelligent discourse on this matter.

[bunniegraves]

Do not use words which you do not understand. Pagan is one of those words.

Please explain what you mean, without using the terms "pagan" or "paganism", as they are very broad terms that you do not specify anything in particular.

Then we will have an intelligent discourse on this matter.

pa·gan (pā'gən) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. One who is not a Christian, Muslim, or Jew, especially an adherent of a polytheistic religion in antiquity.
the bolded portion is what im referring to. i have known a few people who practice it, and i do recognize the fact that the catholic church, in order to gain followers, adopted certain pagan rituals and renamed them in order to make the transition from polytheism to monotheism more seamless. winter solstice to christmas, pagan gods and goddesses became saints, etc.

its a theory, thats all.

[Mr_Jude]

pa·gan (pā'gən) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. One who is not a Christian, Muslim, or Jew, especially an adherent of a polytheistic religion in antiquity.
the bolded portion is what im referring to. i have known a few people who practice it, and i do recognize the fact that the catholic church, in order to gain followers, adopted certain pagan rituals and renamed them in order to make the transition from polytheism to monotheism more seamless. winter solstice to christmas, pagan gods and goddesses became saints, etc.

its a theory, thats all.
Use "polytheism", as pagan is an antiquated, offensive word.

Pagan comes from the Latin word, paganus, which would translate to "simple folk/yokel/hillbilly" in the modern English... It was used to insult Christians because they were thought to be "simple" having only one deity and all. When the Christians took power in Rome, they turned around and started insulting the adherents to "old ways" with it.

Anyway, Catholicism is part of Christianity, a direct descendent to Judaism. Judaism, while purporting to be monotheistic wasn't for a very long time. The Hebrews originally worshipped the gods of the Mesopotamians, Baal, Yahweh, etc. Somewhere along the line, The Cult of Yahweh (cult here meaning a religious sect devoted to one god over the others) took power and pushed the Hebrews into being entirely a cult of Yahweh... Hence why, in literal translation, The Bible says (in reference to the First Commandment) "Thalt shall have no gods before me", and not "Don't worship any other gods".

So, as you see, Christianity comes from polytheism to begin with.

[bunniegraves]

Use "polytheism", as pagan is an antiquated, offensive word.

Pagan comes from the Latin word, paganus, which would translate to "simple folk/yokel/hillbilly" in the modern English... It was used to insult Christians because they were thought to be "simple" having only one deity and all. When the Christians took power in Rome, they turned around and started insulting the adherents to "old ways" with it.

Anyway, Catholicism is part of Christianity, a direct descendent to Judaism. Judaism, while purporting to be monotheistic wasn't for a very long time. The Hebrews originally worshipped the gods of the Mesopotamians, Baal, Yahweh, etc. Somewhere along the line, The Cult of Yahweh (cult here meaning a religious sect devoted to one god over the others) took power and pushed the Hebrews into being entirely a cult of Yahweh... Hence why, in literal translation, The Bible says (in reference to the First Commandment) "Thalt shall have no gods before me", and not "Don't worship any other gods".

So, as you see, Christianity comes from polytheism to begin with.
yes, i know.

[Mr_Jude]

The one, true church is still Catholicism.

They say so.

[bunniegraves]

The one, true church is still Catholicism.

They say so.

after 2 years in a catholic school i would disagree.

[Phil_Spectre]

45 grave rules, and "anti anti anti" is one of my favorite songs. :cool:

[Mr_Jude]

after 2 years in a catholic school i would disagree.
I had 7.5 years.

[bunniegraves]

I had 7.5 years.

Im sorry for your loss.

I dont have a problem with catholicism, just the majority of the hypocrites that follow it.

[DKFan777]

im not sure if theres heaven or hell and if it does exist idc which one i go to as long as i die happy

[Mr_Jude]

Im sorry for your loss.

I dont have a problem with catholicism, just the majority of the hypocrites that follow it.
As you should.

At the base, -isms and -anities aren't really bad things... Beliefs are rarely "evil" or "wrong", it's the way people follow them that end up causing the problem.

[Noodlesflyhigh]

The one, true church is still Catholicism.

They say so.

Who is "They"?

I don't want to get started on which church is true, and which church is not...no matter what we will disagree.

I think that The Catholic Church is wrong for various reasons...some smaller than others.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[Smooth]

I've haven't seen one religion so far that I believe to be 100% true.

Then again, I have a lot more religions to study.

[bunniegraves]

i believe there is some sort of higher power out there, but beyond that i havent found any religion that seems right for me.

[Smooth]

I have a feeling it is because they are all wrong.

[Noodlesflyhigh]

I've haven't seen one religion so far that I believe to be 100% true.

Then again, I have a lot more religions to study.

Hey Russ,

Have you gotten a chance to listen to that talk I sent you? Also, instead of e-mailing you the information on what our church believes about the 'Oneness Of The Father, and The Son":

"There has been much misunderstandings regarding the oft-repeated statement that Jesus Christ, and his Father are one. A careful reading of the seventeenth chapter of John should clarify this matter fully. As Jesus was about to be offered up, he prayed unto his Father and thanked him for his apostles, saying, "that they may be one, as we are". (John 17:11.) Then He added:

"Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
"That they all may be onel as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also mayy be one is us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." (John 17:20-21)

"Now it is very apparent that Jesus was not speaking of oneness of personage, but oneness of purpose, for he further prayed that they might be with him, which would be unnecessary if the onness referred to was of the personage instead of the purpose.

"Father, I will that they also, whom thou has given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me; for thou lovedst me before the foundations of the world." (John 17:24)


"Again it is evident that the oneness referred to has no reference to oneness of personage, for if Jesus and his Father were one person, how absurd to think that Jesus would pray unto himself, or that he would love himself before the foundation of the world. He said;"

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3.)

"This true knowledge of God and of his Son, Jesus Christ, has come again to the world in this dispensation, not through a study of the Bible, but through the actual appearance of these heavenly personages to the young Joseph Smith, as he has so eloquently testified. "

-Legrand Richards, A Marvelous Work, and A Wonder (A Missionary Reference Tool).

There ya go Rassule.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[Smooth]

Interesting....

[INVISIBLE_LEADER]

It absolutly amazes me how in this day in age there are litterally billions of mentally stable adults running around believing in imaginary friends.

[Death_By_Punk]

I'm sure that most of you identify yourself with a particular religion, whether it is Catholic, Jewish, or your an Atheist...I'd like to ask you a question.

I've noticed something lately that has been happening quite a bit. I've talked with people that are getting pamplets on their cars, talking about how horrible my religion is.

It's starting to really piss me off.

What would you do?

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

People aren't pissed at your religon they're pissed that some asshole is running around handing pamphlets out.

[RickyS]

It absolutly amazes me how in this day in age there are litterally billions of mentally stable adults running around believing in imaginary friends.

I agree. It makes no sense to me. I could care less what someone believes, but when they try to put me down, or try to convert me. That is when I take it personal.

[bunniegraves]

im on the fence. i hate it when people shove their faith down my throat, i hate it when people who dont believe in the concept of god or a higher power wont tolerate others who do. me? Im agnostic. I know in my heart theres a force out there, bigger than me, that can probably kick my ass. i dont follow a particular religion though

[Smooth]

You just described me.

.....weird.

[Noodlesflyhigh]

I agree. It makes no sense to me. I could care less what someone believes, but when they try to put me down, or try to convert me. That is when I take it personal.

Pretend you have a diamond, the biggest diamond the world has EVER seen. I mean this baby is a huge, beautiful sparkling, piece of art. It's so amazing that when you see it your heart flutters.

Would you want to show it to your family, and friends? Would you want to post pictures of it everywhere so everyone can share the feeling that you get from staring at this miraculous rock?

Of course you would.

That is how I feel about my religion. I feel like I've discovered something so beautiful, and something that could potentially make you feel the way I feel. I have a burning desire to share this.

That is why people go on missions.

That is why I continue bringing up my religion, I'm hoping that I'll get some people interested enough to read more about Christianity...or The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.

I've had one so far private message me asking about it...hopefully I can get more.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[RickyS]

You can keep your "diamond". I'm not interested.
If I wanted to hear about religion I'd go to holytrinity.com, or something like that.

[Mr_Jude]

You can keep your "diamond". I'm not interested.
If I wanted to hear about religion I'd go to holytrinity.com, or something like that.
If you want to hear about religion, ever, goto religioustolerance.org or some such... Very accurate info about many religions.

[Noodlesflyhigh]

You can keep your "diamond". I'm not interested.
If I wanted to hear about religion I'd go to holytrinity.com, or something like that.

It's okay if your not interested, I already gathered that information from your previous post.

I was trying to explain why I have such a desire to share how I feel about my religion. That doesn't mean that you need to read it, learn about it, or even allow it to get one second of consideration.

However, I was just hoping that after reading that post you would understand why people do try to share their beliefs. It's because it's something that makes them so happy inside, that they want to share it with others...such as yourself.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[Fukface82]

I'm a heathen. I'm anti-Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, but I don't go around knocking on any of them unless someone tries to engage me in more than just debate. People are free to believe what they want. If you get personal with your views then so will I. I could care less what people have to say about my moral/spiritual beliefs.

[ThePope]

but the thing is, everyone thinks their own little diamond is the best and/or most logical diamond there is, and most people would simply prefer not listen to someone else explaining why their diamond is so awesome when they themselves likely have one as well.

[Noodlesflyhigh]

but the thing is, everyone thinks their own little diamond is the best and/or most logical diamond there is, and most people would simply prefer not listen to someone else explaining why their diamond is so awesome when they themselves likely have one as well.

Some people don't have diamonds...and have never even seen one. Those are some of the people that I want to show mine too.

Also, people who already think they have the best diamond, the most beautiful, and the most amazing may see my diamond...and be in awe at how miraculous it is (which is often the case).

Of course sometimes there will be people who won't even LOOK at my diamond, let alone think of taking a piece of it for themselves, and throw away their old one. Yet, I still have a passion to continue on my journey...and find more that do have the desire.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[RickyS]

Some people don't have diamonds...and have never even seen one. Those are some of the people that I want to show mine too.



Also, people who already think they have the best diamond, the most beautiful, and the most amazing may see my diamond...and be in awe at how miraculous it is (which is often the case).

Of course sometimes there will be people who won't even LOOK at my diamond, let alone think of taking a piece of it for themselves, and throw away their old one. Yet, I still have a passion to continue on my journey...and find more that do have the desire.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles Everybody has a "diamond". You just think yours is the best.
I think mine is prettier than yours.

[Noodles]

Everybody has a "diamond". You just think yours is the best.
I think mine is prettier than yours.

Not everyone has a diamond...

It was a metaphor for religion, and not everyone has a religion. Bunniegrave previously mentioned she doesn't affiliate herself with one.

I don't think mine is "better"...I know that mine is right.

It's completely okay if you disagree with me Ricky :)

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[RickyS]

I don't think mine is "better"...I know that mine is right.


PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles
...but if everybody is right then who's wrong? :confused:

[Mr_Jude]

Not everyone has a diamond...

It was a metaphor for religion, and not everyone has a religion. Bunniegrave previously mentioned she doesn't affiliate herself with one.
For the purpose of this discussion, everybody does have a diamond.

A lack of religious belief is still a religious belief, in the scheme of things. It's the idea that no religion is right, or that there is no god. It's their diamond, and they think it's right.

[Noodlesflyhigh]

For the purpose of this discussion, everybody does have a diamond.

A lack of religious belief is still a religious belief, in the scheme of things. It's the idea that no religion is right, or that there is no god. It's their diamond, and they think it's right.

I think that a lack of religious belief...is definitely a belief, but not a RELIGIOUS belief (which is what I meant with the diamond metaphor).

This is only my point of view.

Getting back to the main point, I love sharing my beliefs with people because it has given me such joy...and I want to pass that joy along to others that will at least give me the time to listen.

I don't want to force it on anyone, but I do have a burning desire to teach what I know.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-NOodles

[Noodlesflyhigh]

...but if everybody is right then who's wrong? :confused:

What I was saying is that I believe that my church is the true church...

As for the others...I personally believe that they aren't true.

Why don't you read some more on religions, and decide which is best for you.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[Phil_Spectre]

Crom laughs from his mountain at your pathetic gods.

[Mr_Jude]

I think that a lack of religious belief...is definitely a belief, but not a RELIGIOUS belief (which is what I meant with the diamond metaphor).

This is only my point of view.
It's a belief that has to do with religion... That was my point.

And many people can be just as (for lack of a better word, here) rabid about their non-belief as you are about your belief.

[Noodlesflyhigh]

It's a belief that has to do with religion... That was my point.

And many people can be just as (for lack of a better word, here) rabid about their non-belief as you are about your belief.

I think that I may have not explained myself well enough in that last post when I said that not everyone has a diamond.

I'm not talking about atheists, or people that have an opinion like "Jesus is the savior...but no church on Earth is true".

I'm talking about those who have no idea anything about what to think about God, and have no desire to learn. The people who have no personal view on religion. Those are the type of people I'm mostly interesting in sharing my "diamond" with.

However, I still would love to share my thoughts on religion with people that do already have an established religion, or certain thoughts on religion.

Also, I know that you mentioned that you were only using the word 'rabid' for lack of a better term. I'd just like to say that I don't think I have an irrational opinion, or love of my religion. Maybe passionate would be a better term.

PEACE LOVE EMPATHY
-Noodles

[HauntedRomance]

Different religions don't bother me, people have their own beliefs and it should be respected. maybe report it?

[johnnyxlondon]

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH!

the catholic church is at least partly responsible for just about every fucked-uppedness in the world.

[jonhomeowner]

the catholic church is at least partly responsible for just about every fucked-uppedness in the world.
But they are the one, true church, as I said (under my former name).

[jonhomeowner]

the catholic church is at least partly responsible for just about every fucked-uppedness in the world.
Also...

O RLY?

[HauntedRomance]

I'm Catholic, the church holds things together, it brings people closer. Don't say things about other religions. That's just messed up.

[BEERnBRATWURST]

I'm Catholic, the church holds things together, it brings people closer. Don't say things about other religions. That's just messed up.


Just curious, does your Catholic Church condone the use of birth control? Because it's frowned upon in all the Catholic churches/ministries here in Watsonville, CA. Which is one of the reasons why teen/pre-teen pregnancy is running rampant.....

[johnnyxlondon]

back in the olde days one of the big reasons children were married so young was that the catholic church taught that every opportunity to conceive was sacred, and therefore it was recommended that a girl be married and a'fuckin before her first period.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/cheapsexpunk/random%20images%20and%20macros/nbc_the_more_you_know.jpg

[jonhomeowner]

back in the olde days one of the big reasons children were married so young was that the catholic church taught that every opportunity to conceive was sacred, and therefore it was recommended that a girl be married and a'fuckin before her first period.

O RLY?

PLZ TELL ME MOAR!

[Spiralz]

I just peruse em' for kicks then rip them into little pieces.

[ThePope]

no birth control= overpopulation= more tithing catholics= suped up popemobile

[HauntedRomance]

There are some things I don't agree with, but why write things like that, its screwed up. Just because you have faith in a religion doesn't mean you value every aspect, but you dont criticize everything about it.

[johnnyxlondon]

There are some things I don't agree with, but why write things like that, its screwed up. Just because you have faith in a religion doesn't mean you value every aspect, but you dont criticize everything about it.

but most religions (catholicism notably) demand total acceptance of their doctrines in order to attain salvation and eternal reward. to disagree with the Catechism in any aspect is, by definition, to be a bad catholic, and therefore outside communion with God.

(18 years of forced catholicism and six years of freedom talking here)

[ThePope]

yeah, I think theres a lot of catholics that disagree with the pope on certain things, but they still consider themselves to be good catholics. they pick and choose what they want from their religion, which leads me to believe that people mold religion (all religions) to fit their own needs and not the other way around, rendering religion arbitrary, which I guess would make the pope (yours truly) more of a symbolic entity

[jonhomeowner]

but most religions (catholicism notably) demand total acceptance of their doctrines in order to attain salvation and eternal reward. to disagree with the Catechism in any aspect is, by definition, to be a bad catholic, and therefore outside communion with God.
By Catholic law, if you do anything they disagree with, you can be excommunicated. Fortunately, they don't often do that (because it would lead to bad press, and they'd lose a lot of followers).

(18 years of forced catholicism and six years of freedom talking here)
YOUR LEARNINGS, TELL US MOAR!

[HauntedRomance]

if the church considers you a bad catholic if you disagree, so be it. But I doubt God will punish me if I don't agree on all terms and just be a good person.

[ThePope]

how can simply being a good person suffice when you disagree with the infallible pope????

[BEERnBRATWURST]

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!!!!!!




....Nevermind.

[johnnyxlondon]

By Catholic law, if you do anything they disagree with, you can be excommunicated. Fortunately, they don't often do that (because it would lead to bad press, and they'd lose a lot of followers).

these days excommuncation is only used on public figures as a way of setting an example for the hoi polloi, the reasoning being that if they see a notable catholic politician excommunicated for something the church disagrees with, it might be a good idea to not follow their example.

[BEERnBRATWURST]

Religion is a business. Which is why the "laws" of what is acceptable (whether it be Catholic or Christian) are constantly updated for the times. The more conservative the church, the less followers, which means less money in the bowl come sunday. Ex-communication would be bad for business.

[johnnyxlondon]

Religion is a business. Which is why the "laws" of what is acceptable (whether it be Catholic or Christian) are constantly updated for the times. The more conservative the church, the less followers, which means less money in the bowl come sunday. Ex-communication would be bad for business.

churches (some) are a business. religion isn't.

[jonhomeowner]

these days excommuncation is only used on public figures as a way of setting an example for the hoi polloi, the reasoning being that if they see a notable catholic politician excommunicated for something the church disagrees with, it might be a good idea to not follow their example.
I am glad you are here to enlighten me. You are teaching me so much!

[HauntedRomance]

one thing i dont agree with is when you're not welcomed as a member of the church if you get divorced. I just don't get that. I believe in God and thats all that matters.

[ThePope]

not according to Cyprian

[ThePope]

on second thought, Cyprian was probably an uptight jackoff, so you're probably okay

[thebigother]

I'm Catholic, the church holds things together, it brings people closer. Don't say things about other religions. That's just messed up.

Fuck that. I'll never understand why anybody would think religion should be beyond discussion and critique. If you're so insecure you can't handle other people talking about your religion, maybe you should re-evaluate why you even follow it.

[jonhomeowner]

on second thought, Cyprian was probably an uptight jackoff, so you're probably okay
He couldn't be as much of a jackoff as Augustine!

[ChrisJones]

Since there is more than one religion in this world, they cancel each other out.

It's a tug of war for your mind.

[jonhomeowner]

Since there are more than one religions in this world, they cancel eachother out.

It's a tug of war for your mind.
Deep.

[ThePope]

Origen jacked it so hard he castrated himself

[sickgirl1503]

Organized religion is just mind control anyways. This country was founded on the freedom of religion, so why is that our government is always trying to tell us when and how to worship. It's like putting in god we trust on our currency, and the pledge of alligence. Not everybody believes in the same god, don't shove yours in my face.

[jonhomeowner]

Organized religion is just mind control anyways. This country was founded on the freedom of religion, so why is that our government is always trying to tell us when and how to worship. It's like putting in god we trust on our currency, and the pledge of alligence. Not everybody believes in the same god, don't shove yours in my face.
LOL.

I just... Don't know what to say to all of this idiocy.

The government isn't telling us how to worship. The money says "god", and it doesn't specify what god. That's not telling us how to worship.

And anyway, this country wasn't founded on freedom of religion - it was founded on freedom from taxation (specifically without representation). Just because a bunch of people fled here to escape religious persecution (oddly enough, most of them started persecuting others as soon as they arrived) doesn't mean we were "founded on religious freedom".

[sickgirl1503]

Good point, love. I was just flying off the handle randomly, just to see if any intelligent conversations would start. I smoke tooooo much pot to care about government or religion anyways. Except for the fact that "the man" has finally found a way to tax my weed which sucks. oh well just another way to pay for illegal aliens in California

[thebigother]

I smoke too much pot and religion and the government are huge causes of anxiety for me.

BTW, how are they taxing weed?

[sickgirl1503]

My hubby has a medical prescription and every time he goes to a collective they added tax to his purchase:eek:

[thebigother]

That's more or less why I'm in no rush to see it legalized. They'd tax the hell out of it. Not that I think it should be illegal either. I just want to get stoned in peace and for cheap.

[sickgirl1503]

Ok here is the only time I quote the bible and since the government is so into religion......." I have given you all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use" Genesis 1:12 When was the last time you heard someone getting stoned and robbing a bank? I'm luck if I can get off my ass to rob my freakin fridge:cool:

[jonhomeowner]

The government is not "so into religion".

[sickgirl1503]

Oh come on! They are so in to religion.

[jonhomeowner]

Oh come on! They are so in to religion.
Maybe, like, George W.

[sickgirl1503]

That's why I'm just going to move into the woods somewhere in the Pacific Northwest and open my compound. No freeloading, patchouli wearing, frisbee tossing cheeba monkeys,, no religion, no Mexicans,and my 26 plants only 6 mature though.

[sickgirl1503]

Now I have to play good little wifey and make my hubby dinner, good luck on becoming the next leader of the semi free world

[thebigother]

Dude, the Pacific North West is full of patchouli wearing fressby tossing cheeba monkeys. I would assume there are mexicans too. And religion, except moreso the hippy new age kind.

[sickgirl1503]

Yes but if I live far enough out there I can kinda pick who I want around me, instead of here where it's in my face everyday. I plan on buying a big enough piece of land that I won't have any close neighbors ( at least 5 mile radius), and plan on no one being able to find me unless I want them too and please don't call me Dude

[BEERnBRATWURST]

churches (some) are a business. religion isn't.


And where would churches be without religion?

[ChrisJones]

I don't know if God would agree with me, but believing in God is kind of unimportant when compared to believing in yourself. Because if you go with the idea that God gave you a mind and an ability to judge things, then he would want you to believe in yourself and not worry about believing in him. By believing in yourself you will come to the conclusion that will point to something.

[HauntedRomance]

I don't know if God would agree with me, but believing in God is kind of unimportant when compared to believing in yourself. Because if you go with the idea that God gave you a mind and an ability to judge things, then he would want you to believe in yourself and not worry about believing in him. By believing in yourself you will come to the conclusion that will point to something.

True, he gave us our minds and we have free choice, so technically we can choose what faith, if any at all to believe in. I go to church and pray, not often as would be considered a good catholic but you can still follow your faith and believe in the same things. Just like confession, why do you have to speak and tell a priest everything you did wrong? Can't you just pray to God and ask for forgiveness?

[thebigother]

If free will was truley important to God, he wouldn't punish everybody who freely chose to follow an other faith or lack therof.

[HauntedRomance]

which he doesn't, everyone has the right to their own beliefs

[thebigother]

So that whole "No other Gods before me" thing no longer applies? And all those instances in the bible of God testing somebody's faith were just for kicks? Good to know.

[HauntedRomance]

well the Bible is for people who believe in it, I believe in one true God, but other people can believe what they want to, its their choice, their faith

[Nips]

so then whats the point? do you think these people are free to choose, but are actually incorrect in their beliefs?

[thebigother]

well the Bible is for people who believe in it, I believe in one true God, but other people can believe what they want to, its their choice, their faith

I had no idea that your opinions were Christian doctrine. Thanks for clearing that up.

[HauntedRomance]

I had no idea that your opinions were Christian doctrine. Thanks for clearing that up.

I beleive in religious tolerance and God. No one should get ounished for their faith, you love to debate don't you?

[Nips]

so then you take gods word with a pinch of salt?

[HauntedRomance]

so then you take gods word with a pinch of salt?


what?

[jonhomeowner]

what?
I think he's saying that you're taking it with a grain of salt... Because you believe that people have a right to their own beliefs... Which, according to the word of "God", is wrong.

[HauntedRomance]

ahh alright, thanks. then yes I do, I see nothing worng with believing in what you want.

[thebigother]

I beleive in religious tolerance and God. No one should get ounished for their faith, you love to debate don't you?
I'm not talking about what you personally believe. I'm talking about what is stated in the Bible, which last time I checked contained the laws of Christianity. And yes, I love to debate.

[HauntedRomance]

I'm not talking about what you personally believe. I'm talking about what is stated in the Bible, which last time I checked contained the laws of Christianity. And yes, I love to debate.

Cool, me too apparently. I don't believe everything in the Bible.

[johnnyxlondon]

then you're a bad catholic. and you're going to boil in shit and horse semen for all eternity.

as for the whole government thing, the constitution guarantees us freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.

[BEERnBRATWURST]

I love horse semen and horse cock.

I knew it......

[HauntedRomance]

you have no power to judge that

[jonhomeowner]

then you're a bad catholic. and you're going to boil in shit and horse semen for all eternity.
You're simply a bad person.

[Nips]

he is really irritating me now.

[HauntedRomance]

I don't get it, i'm ignoring him =P

[Nips]

i find it really hard to ignore annoying, idiotic people. its a big flaw of mine.

[johnnyxlondon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/cheapsexpunk/random%20images%20and%20macros/jesus.jpg

[HauntedRomance]

true, it can be hard, if you can make him stop in anyway, it would be much appreciated!

[Nips]

unfortunately thats out of my hands.

jon can prolly slag him off untill he goes away.

[HauntedRomance]

hmm..alright that will do, then we better ask Jon to help shouldn't we? =P

[jonhomeowner]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/cheapsexpunk/random%20images%20and%20macros/jesus.jpg
That's a really stupid image. There is nothing funny about it.

Why would you even post it?

[Nips]

hmm..alright that will do, then we better ask Jon to help shouldn't we? =P

god no. he'll do it all by himself.

[HauntedRomance]

god no. he'll do it all by himself.

alrigth, where's the popcorn? I need to watch this unfold

[jonhomeowner]

alrigth, where's the popcorn? I need to watch this unfold
A lot of popcorn is eaten on my behalf. I love it.

I should probably buy stock in Orville Redenbacher or some such, no?

[HauntedRomance]

A lot of popcorn is eaten on my behalf. I love it.

I should probably buy stock in Orville Redenbacher or some such, no?

Orville Popcorn is the best, buy all kinds and make yourself a selection. And steal some of those old popcorn cartons =P

[ChrisJones]

I don't even understand this thread at all.

[jonhomeowner]

I don't even understand this thread at all.
So, can we add that to the long list of things you don't understand?

[ChrisJones]

So, can we add that to the long list of things you don't understand?

Are you disappointed I'm not an all-knowing supreme being?

Sorry to let you down.

[jonhomeowner]

Are you disappointed I'm not an all-knowing supreme being?

Sorry to let you down.
You're a no-knowing being.

[ChrisJones]

You're a no-knowing being.

I know your mom.

[jonhomeowner]

I know your mom.
I am truly sorry.

[Look Its Aaron]

This thread is kinda long and I didn't read past the first page...

Just some usless info thought I would share.

[ChrisJones]

This thread is kinda long and I didn't read past the first page...

Just some usless info thought I would share.

If you see "jonhomeowner" as the last poster, chances are the thread has gone to shit.

[Look Its Aaron]

You said homo somewhere in that sentence!

[jonhomeowner]

ChrisJones, this is just sad and pathetic. Your insults have degraded to that of a middle-schooler (your mom, etc), and now you're just saying things like "chances are if you see somebody's name, the thread has gone to shit".

Dude, you cause most of the problems around here because:
A. you can't handle being teased
B. you can't mind your own fucking business (See: I'm Not New)

[Look Its Aaron]

Man, vag is great.

[BEERnBRATWURST]

You said homo somewhere in that sentence!


Oh no he didn't.....

[jonhomeowner]

Man, vag is great.
Isn't it the best?!?

p.s. I wish the interrobang existed.

[ChrisJones]

ChrisJones, this is just sad and pathetic. Your insults have degraded to that of a middle-schooler (your mom, etc), and now you're just saying things like "chances are if you see somebody's name, the thread has gone to shit".

Dude, you cause most of the problems around here because:
A. you can't handle being teased
B. you can't mind your own fucking business (See: I'm Not New)

yawn

bore me some more jon

[Look Its Aaron]

Oh no he didn't.....

http://www.lamustangclub.com/forums/images/smilies/steve.gif

[HauntedRomance]

having fun guys?

[ChrisJones]

A. you can't handle being teased


If provoked I fight back.


B. you can't mind your own fucking business (See: I'm Not New)

If you post something out for the public to see it casts a spotlight on whatever you are talking about. There's PM's are there for a reason. Use them instead of the forum.

You're a brat jon.

[jonhomeowner]

If provoked I fight back.
Most people do.

If you post something out for the public to see it casts a spotlight on whatever you are talking about. There's PM's are there for a reason. Use them instead of the forum.
I'm aware of that. However, when you insert your opinion into something, and I say something back, and you start whining or saying "fuck off", then it's pretty silly of you... Because you didn't have to be involved to begin with.

You're a brat jon.
Classic case of projection. If only Noodles were here to diagnose you!