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colinrebellion
08-02-2007, 06:26 AM
heres the whole facebook convo:

The Dude (TD): Youre profile says youre Protestant, I was just wondering if that was a joke or if you're serious

Me: I'm serious man

TD: But I was under the impression you were an anarchist, at least thats what you say. However, as an anarchist that would mean you believe in no gods, no masters. How can you be free if you are still bowing to the most jealous, violent, and hateful fascist of them all? Unless of course, you are a poser.
In case you don't pay attention to any of the music you listen to, it is prodominantly anti-religious, (NOFX, Dead Kennedys, and Sex Pistols are 3 that stood out to me on your profile as odd.) But then, you say you listen to Bad Religion, which as hinted by the name, is very antitheism. I really hope you don't actually listen to them and just put it on there to be 'punk,' because if you listen to Bad Religion and are a God-fearing person yourself, you are not only a poser, but most likely one of the most ignorant people I've ever encountered.
How can you wish for peace when you worship the topmost breaker thereof? Religion has been the cause of the majority of bloodshed and oppression throughout human history. From the Crusades, whose trumoil the Middle East is still reeling from, to the Inquisition of the 14th century, one of the darkest periods in history and a fascist police state rival to, if not worse than Nazi Germany, to the attacks on America on 9/11, and the always ongoing conflicts around the world in places such as Israel, Pakistan, Sudan, Northern Ireland, Bosnia, etc.
Just want to know why you consider yourself an anarchist.

"People who harbor strong convictions without evidence belong at the margins of our societies, not in our halls of power." ~Sam Harris from The End of Faith

NOTE: I also just noticed you actually have "You Will Lose Faith" by NOFX listed under your favorite quotes... there is no way you are that dumb. Did you read the lyrics before you posted them? Because if you do believe in God, you are now going to Hell for that song as you have committed the one and only unforgivable sin in the Bible.

Me: You make a really good argument, and I see where your coming from ,and I have to tell you I actualy gave up the anarchist thing some time ago. I like BR because they are a good band, I like they're sound . I listen to punk because it's good music. I love being a diy person and try to help out bands get their music out. But when it comes to all that stuff of religion and those bands being "against christ" I could care less bro. I got atheist freinds and they've accepted me. No matter how much NOFX talks about hateing god and christians I will consider them as my favorite band always. I will take down the you will lose faith lyrics to relieve situations such as this , you seem to be a bigger punk rocker then I will always be and I(no matter how much of an ignorant person you think I'll be) respect that. and to be honest Derek I am christian I do worship jesus but I'm not one of those people who push it on people like "go to church every sunday" or "read the bible as often as you can" I've done alot more bad things in my life that could send me to hell then posting song lyrics about a song asking about where is your god. I hate the presiden't I hate the government, and you teaching me the real meening of the word anarchist I will not take the word for granted. You are a really wise person, you can call me a poser whatever I hear it all the time, but I won't let it bring me down, fuck I got called ignorant today by somebody. so I've heard that before. I wish you a good day. and I listen to prpagandhi too and I know they hate god too koz of the song Hallie Sallasies up your ass!

citybabylissarage
08-02-2007, 06:33 AM
heres the whole facebook convo:

The Dude (TD): Youre profile says youre Protestant, I was just wondering if that was a joke or if you're serious

Me: I'm serious man

TD: But I was under the impression you were an anarchist, at least thats what you say. However, as an anarchist that would mean you believe in no gods, no masters. How can you be free if you are still bowing to the most jealous, violent, and hateful fascist of them all? Unless of course, you are a poser.
In case you don't pay attention to any of the music you listen to, it is prodominantly anti-religious, (NOFX, Dead Kennedys, and Sex Pistols are 3 that stood out to me on your profile as odd.) But then, you say you listen to Bad Religion, which as hinted by the name, is very antitheism. I really hope you don't actually listen to them and just put it on there to be 'punk,' because if you listen to Bad Religion and are a God-fearing person yourself, you are not only a poser, but most likely one of the most ignorant people I've ever encountered.
How can you wish for peace when you worship the topmost breaker thereof? Religion has been the cause of the majority of bloodshed and oppression throughout human history. From the Crusades, whose trumoil the Middle East is still reeling from, to the Inquisition of the 14th century, one of the darkest periods in history and a fascist police state rival to, if not worse than Nazi Germany, to the attacks on America on 9/11, and the always ongoing conflicts around the world in places such as Israel, Pakistan, Sudan, Northern Ireland, Bosnia, etc.
Just want to know why you consider yourself an anarchist.

"People who harbor strong convictions without evidence belong at the margins of our societies, not in our halls of power." ~Sam Harris from The End of Faith

NOTE: I also just noticed you actually have "You Will Lose Faith" by NOFX listed under your favorite quotes... there is no way you are that dumb. Did you read the lyrics before you posted them? Because if you do believe in God, you are now going to Hell for that song as you have committed the one and only unforgivable sin in the Bible.

Me: You make a really good argument, and I see where your coming from ,and I have to tell you I actualy gave up the anarchist thing some time ago. I like BR because they are a good band, I like they're sound . I listen to punk because it's good music. I love being a diy person and try to help out bands get their music out. But when it comes to all that stuff of religion and those bands being "against christ" I could care less bro. I got atheist freinds and they've accepted me. No matter how much NOFX talks about hateing god and christians I will consider them as my favorite band always. I will take down the you will lose faith lyrics to relieve situations such as this , you seem to be a bigger punk rocker then I will always be and I(no matter how much of an ignorant person you think I'll be) respect that. and to be honest Derek I am christian I do worship jesus but I'm not one of those people who push it on people like "go to church every sunday" or "read the bible as often as you can" I've done alot more bad things in my life that could send me to hell then posting song lyrics about a song asking about where is your god. I hate the presiden't I hate the government, and you teaching me the real meening of the word anarchist I will not take the word for granted. You are a really wise person, you can call me a poser whatever I hear it all the time, but I won't let it bring me down, fuck I got called ignorant today by somebody. so I've heard that before. I wish you a good day. and I listen to prpagandhi too and I know they hate god too koz of the song Hallie Sallasies up your ass!

...

Gosh. You're just dumb as a brick.

But in an endearing sort of way.

kingrocker
08-02-2007, 07:18 AM
Colin you have the right idea you just need to perfect it a little more. And what I mean by that is Who gives a fuck what someone says about you or to you. Until someone walks in your shoes they don't know shit. I don't even bother dealing with jackasses anymore. Are you not punk rock or are you a poser, The correct answer to that kinda question is fuck off your stupid!!!

You rock Colin

ThePope
08-02-2007, 07:56 AM
the first kid is retarded is he thinks you can't listen to anti-religious bands and be a christian yourself, so no, don't listen to him

Fukface82
08-02-2007, 08:13 AM
As much of a heathen as I am I think you did fine.

Mitch-a-palooza
08-02-2007, 09:23 AM
music is music and anyone can listen to what they want to.. now calling yourself an anarchist or whatever just because you think that's "punk" now thats just plain fucking lame

tisJoefoo
08-02-2007, 01:30 PM
I still think Colin is a dumb ass.

colinrebellion
08-02-2007, 05:41 PM
joe you always have a way to insult and bring a smile to my face at the same time but I got a message back to him and he seemed to be relieved

TD: Alright man thats cool, I was just under the assumption you were an anarchist and I was confused and angry at the same time. Its good you can hold intelligent arguements, its a skill many lack, (ahem Bill O'Reilly cough cough.) If you just love the sound of punk, thats cool too, its better than enjoying the sound of country I guess, especially if you're into helping local artists. Me and a few friends are actually opening a venue here in CR so I'll keep you posted on that.
Its also very cool you don't let petty name calling like mine get you down, its the only way you can survive when you live the punk lifestyle is to just not let stupid shit get you down. I wasn't trying to just be a dick, but as you probably know, there are a lot of people that just call themselves anarchists because they think it gives them an excuse to act like a total asshole, and it really pisses me off.

Peace love & respect,
~Derek

P.S. you picked up New Maps of Hell yet?

Me: yeah man I used to be one of those kids who was always saying I was punk, but I was just listening to rancid, then I discovered a really cool site called punkrockers.com, all the people from there told me about Discharge, GBH, X, DEVO, The Pistols, Conflict, etc...etc... and they told me if your gonna be a real punk your gonna have to drop the poser bullshit, and you can't let what others tell you get you down (example just like the argument we had)

Yeah man keep me posted on the venue , I'd love to here what goes on. I heard from a freind the Societys Parisites were suppost to come here in the nea future so hopefully you'll have it opened by then so you can get them .

dude I was about to buy new maps of hell at hot topic but I wen't and bought pump up the valuum I needed it for the NOFX collection I have. I have all but 4 albums and I have have three of there ep's (if you include The Decline as a ep)

-Col!n
(-N-)

citybabylissarage
08-02-2007, 09:48 PM
joe you always have a way to insult and bring a smile to my face at the same time but I got a message back to him and he seemed to be relieved

TD: Alright man thats cool, I was just under the assumption you were an anarchist and I was confused and angry at the same time. Its good you can hold intelligent arguements, its a skill many lack, (ahem Bill O'Reilly cough cough.) If you just love the sound of punk, thats cool too, its better than enjoying the sound of country I guess, especially if you're into helping local artists. Me and a few friends are actually opening a venue here in CR so I'll keep you posted on that.
Its also very cool you don't let petty name calling like mine get you down, its the only way you can survive when you live the punk lifestyle is to just not let stupid shit get you down. I wasn't trying to just be a dick, but as you probably know, there are a lot of people that just call themselves anarchists because they think it gives them an excuse to act like a total asshole, and it really pisses me off.

Peace love & respect,
~Derek

P.S. you picked up New Maps of Hell yet?

Me: yeah man I used to be one of those kids who was always saying I was punk, but I was just listening to rancid, then I discovered a really cool site called punkrockers.com, all the people from there told me about Discharge, GBH, X, DEVO, The Pistols, Conflict, etc...etc... and they told me if your gonna be a real punk your gonna have to drop the poser bullshit, and you can't let what others tell you get you down (example just like the argument we had)

Yeah man keep me posted on the venue , I'd love to here what goes on. I heard from a freind the Societys Parisites were suppost to come here in the nea future so hopefully you'll have it opened by then so you can get them .

dude I was about to buy new maps of hell at hot topic but I wen't and bought pump up the valuum I needed it for the NOFX collection I have. I have all but 4 albums and I have have three of there ep's (if you include The Decline as a ep)

-Col!n
(-N-)


You handled yourself pretty well.

But uhm. You should probably take a good look at your beliefs if you're okay with music that tears them down. If you're not offended by it, then maybe the whole Christianity thing isn't one of your stronger beliefs?

I don't know, I just know when I believe in something I fight for it.

caligula
08-04-2007, 11:59 AM
Why does listening to Rancid make you a poser?

!straightfuckingedge
08-04-2007, 06:16 PM
at the time I was listening to only one punk band is what I was saying