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ToxicVomit
06-18-2008, 06:03 AM
U.S. School District to Begin Microchipping Students
David Gutierrez
Natural News
June 17, 2008
A Rhode Island school district has announced a pilot program to monitor student movements by means of radio frequency identification (RFID) chips implanted in their schoolbags.
The Middletown School District, in partnership with MAP Information Technology Corp., has launched a pilot program to implant RFID chips into the schoolbags of 80 children at the Aquidneck School. Each chip would be programmed with a student identification number, and would be read by an external device installed in one of two school buses. The buses would also be fitted with global positioning system (GPS) devices.
Parents or school officials could log onto a school web site to see whether and when specific children had entered or exited which bus, and to look up the bus’s current location as provided by the GPS device.
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has criticized the plan as an invasion of children’s privacy and a potential risk to their safety.
"There’s absolutely no need to be tagging children," said Stephen Brown, executive director of the ACLU’s Rhode Island chapter. According to Brown, the school district should already know where its students are.
"[This program is] a solution in search of a problem," Brown said.
The school district says that its current plan is no different than other programs already in place for parents to monitor their children’s school experience. For example, parents can already check on their children’s attendance records and what they have for lunch, said district Superintendent Rosemary Kraeger.
Brown disputed this argument. The school is perfectly entitled to track its buses, he said, but "it’s a quantitative leap to monitor children themselves." He raised the question of whether unauthorized individuals could use easily available RFID readers to find out students’ private information and monitor their movements.
Because the pilot program is being provided to the school district at no cost, it did not require approval from the Rhode Island ethics commission.
BCTX77
06-18-2008, 10:13 AM
You're next.
jonhomeowner
06-18-2008, 11:30 AM
Eh, they're minors. And their parents allow it. Hard to make a case against it, really. The legal purview that allows parents to keep track of their kids and control their lives is pretty untouchable.
ToxicVomit
06-18-2008, 11:54 AM
Eh, they're minors. And their parents allow it. Hard to make a case against it, really. The legal purview that allows parents to keep track of their kids and control their lives is pretty untouchable.
This is true, but notice how this is free..........just another step in the direction of a tracked population.
opfiend
06-18-2008, 07:34 PM
that's really creepy.
Carlea Skunkrawk
06-19-2008, 03:23 PM
down with Big Brother!
xdipsomaniacx
06-19-2008, 05:35 PM
Curious - any of the people that are answering that are against this - are you parents of small children?
ChrisJones
06-19-2008, 07:28 PM
This will at least make that whole stupid sign in /sign out of the bathrooms SHIT obsolete. God that bothered me.
The only people that should worry are school skippers, really. But I didn't even carry a book bag when I did that.
Jersey Jake
06-20-2008, 04:51 AM
TOXIC: please post a link, in fact post a link in every news artical you post. this is starting to get annoying, I can't stand by my words unless I know I am commenting on a reliable source.
ToxicVomit
06-20-2008, 05:17 AM
I am not going to waste my time doing this for everything I post.......if it seems to be invalid, then research it.
Some of these are news stories....soem of them are just blogs with the same content.....some are pilot program examples:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2006/0152359.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/023445.html
http://rinf.com/alt-news/sicence-technology/us-school-district-to-begin-microchipping-students/3886/
http://top-secret-at.blogspot.com/2008/06/us-school-district-to-begin.html
http://healthandsurvival.com/2008/06/17/us-school-district-to-begin-microchipping-students/
http://thedougwrightshow.blogspot.com/2008/06/rhode-island-school-district-to-put.html
GPS, RFID Scheme Preps Grade Schoolers for Control Grid Future
Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
January 9, 2007
For some reason, the corporate media almost completely ignored this one, although the International Herald Tribune picked it up:
A tech company with ties to a school district plans to test a tracking system by putting computer chips on grade-schoolers’ backpacks, an experiment the ACLU ripped Monday as invasive and unnecessary.
The pilot program set to start next week in the Middletown school district would have about 80 children put tags containing radio frequency identification chips, or RFID chips, on their schoolbags. It would also equip two buses with global positioning systems, or GPS devices.
The school and parents will be able to track students on the bus, and the district hopes the program will improve busing efficiency, Superintendent Rosemarie Kraeger said. The devices are intended to record only when students enter and exit the bus, and the GPS would show where the bus was on it’s route.
Of course, more than an effective way to track and trace kids like beef cattle, this little program is designed to inculcate them while they are young and impressionable, so that a little later in life they will not complain all too mightily about implantable microchips, you know of the sort Mexican temporary workers will soon be getting.
Steven Brown, executive director of the Rhode Island chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, sent a letter to Kraeger and members of the school committee calling the plan “a solution in search of a problem” and saying the school district should already have procedures in place to track where its students are.
On Monday, he said the program raises enormous privacy and safety concerns.
“There’s absolutely no need to be tagging children,” he said. “We are not questioning the school district’s ability to use GPS to monitor school buses. But it’s a quantitative leap to monitor children themselves.”
Funny, that — “a solution in search of a problem.” In fact, according to our rulers, the problem is that we come and go, wander hither and yon, and more or less do as we please. In the future envisioned, we will all be microchipped, that is if we are interested in receiving our digital monetary credits and thus fending off starvation and exposure to the elements.
In Middletown, they are getting serious about conditioning the little ones for the future.
Consider it a public service, as a version of Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World dystopia is right around the bend.
ToxicVomit
06-20-2008, 05:20 AM
This will at least make that whole stupid sign in /sign out of the bathrooms SHIT obsolete. God that bothered me.
The only people that should worry are school skippers, really. But I didn't even carry a book bag when I did that.
LOL......then they can monitor how long you have been sitting on the bowl!
Jersey Jake
06-20-2008, 06:50 AM
I am not going to waste my time doing this for everything I post.......if it seems to be invalid, then research it.
no, you need to link directly to every article you post. Thanks for the additional links.
This does seem like a pretty big pile of shit, but it doesn't look like its to hard to beat. When I skipped, school, I'd go to homeroom, meet up with my buds and leave, I'd never leave with by bookbag. So, I dunno, I'd have the system beat. Double beat cause they'd be able to "track" me, and I'd tell 'em I was in school all day and they could check the microchip.
On the flip side, if I kid gets kidnapped, all the kidnapped has to do is ditch his bookbag. More technology that does absolutely nothing, except slowly erode our right to privacy. I think its just to get us to warm up to having RFID tags everywhere.
No serious, speaking as an engineer, this could be something you have to watch out for. what happens when they start implanting them in your skin?
ToxicVomit
06-20-2008, 07:03 AM
no, you need to link directly to every article you post. Thanks for the additional links.
This does seem like a pretty big pile of shit, but it doesn't look like its to hard to beat. When I skipped, school, I'd go to homeroom, meet up with my buds and leave, I'd never leave with by bookbag. So, I dunno, I'd have the system beat. Double beat cause they'd be able to "track" me, and I'd tell 'em I was in school all day and they could check the microchip.
On the flip side, if I kid gets kidnapped, all the kidnapped has to do is ditch his bookbag. More technology that does absolutely nothing, except slowly erode our right to privacy. I think its just to get us to warm up to having RFID tags everywhere.
No serious, speaking as an engineer, this could be something you have to watch out for. what happens when they start implanting them in your skin?
Well....that is the point that I was trying to get to.......this is just another step in the direction of a tracked society. First pets......then ex-cons.....then marketing RFID chips as something "cool" and convenient on CNN and the like......then piolot programs in schools.......what's next? Scary shit if you ask me. The pilot program is being sold as something for the safety of the child.......but this is how they little by little applying RFID to society. Of course I would want my children to be safe, but not tagged and monitored.
No Cash
06-20-2008, 02:16 PM
Curious - any of the people that are answering that are against this - are you parents of small children?
o stfu, pple have been doing it the old fashion way for thousands of fucking years...this is seriously all because of fat fucking lazy americans
in my senior year they tried to start something for our lunch that u had to give them ur thumb print...this lil machine wud scan it every time u wanted to buy lunch and take money out of ur account
u know damn well i stopped buying lunch
xdipsomaniacx
06-20-2008, 06:01 PM
o stfu, pple have been doing it the old fashion way for thousands of fucking years...this is seriously all because of fat fucking lazy americans
in my senior year they tried to start something for our lunch that u had to give them ur thumb print...this lil machine wud scan it every time u wanted to buy lunch and take money out of ur account
u know damn well i stopped buying lunch
I could give a rats ass if you manage to buy yourself a lunch or not. Most schools just use student numbers.
I was asking a valid question, which I have a right to. By the way, they already use this sort of tracking system for Alzheimer's/dementia patients as well as kids with disabilities i.e. Autism. It's typically an ankle bracelet. It's intended to save lives. I have already said in another forum that I do not plan to microchip my child. But I can imagine why someone would. The 25 year old Autistic man that has been missing in Sunday since the midwest - his parents have already openly said that they regret not getting him the ankle bracelet.
No Cash
06-20-2008, 06:05 PM
I could give a rats ass if you manage to buy yourself a lunch or not. Most schools just use student numbers.
I was asking a valid question, which I have a right to. By the way, they already use this sort of tracking system for Alzheimer's/dementia patients as well as kids with disabilities i.e. Autism. It's typically an ankle bracelet. It's intended to save lives. I have already said in another forum that I do not plan to microchip my child. But I can imagine why someone would. The 25 year old Autistic man that has been missing in Sunday since the midwest - his parents have already openly said that they regret not getting him the ankle bracelet.
and i dont care if u kid gets kidnapped and raped
tho thats a valid point for the mentally disabled...but not for perfectly normal kids...just get off ur lazy ass and watch the lil prick
xdipsomaniacx
06-20-2008, 06:08 PM
and i dont care if u kid gets kidnapped and raped
tho thats a valid point for the mentally disabled...but not for perfectly normal kids...just get off ur lazy ass and watch the lil prick
My 'lazy ass' does have a disabled kid, you jackass. Not to mention that a parent cannot physically watch their child when the parent is at work and the kid is at school/daycare/after school activity. Kids show up missing between their house and the school bus. Again, I am not microchipping my child. But I have heard of it before and I am not appalled.
No Cash
06-20-2008, 06:10 PM
My 'lazy ass' does have a disabled kid, you jackass. Not to mention that a parent cannot physically watch their child when the parent is at work and the kid is at school/daycare/after school activity. Kids show up missing between their house and the school bus. Again, I am not microchipping my child. But I have heard of it before and I am not appalled.
holy fucking shit, i guess u cant read
"tho thats a valid point for the mentally disabled...but not for perfectly normal kids...just get off ur lazy ass and watch the lil prick"
xdipsomaniacx
06-20-2008, 06:15 PM
holy fucking shit, i guess u cant read
"tho thats a valid point for the mentally disabled...but not for perfectly normal kids...just get off ur lazy ass and watch the lil prick"
Hey genius, do you know how many kids get kidnapped in a matter of minutes?
ToxicVomit
06-20-2008, 06:59 PM
I think that we are swaying a bit from the point.......I can understand the reasoning for a parent or loved one to have advanced knowledge where their loved one is for safety purposes, but this is the beginning of how they are selling this to the general public: by telling them that it is needed for safety sake. But this is how things like this always get passed......sell it as being attractive and it gets passed without the general public further researching the long-term possibilities with this type of shit.
This is a dangerous project......and it is only the beginning because the majority of the population will buy into the propaganda and not see the long-term implications of such tracking technology.
This was used in Germany in the late 30's and early 40's with IBM codes being tattood on people's arms.......they didn't have the means back then, but we do now.......
xdipsomaniacx
06-20-2008, 07:14 PM
I think that we are swaying a bit from the point.......I can understand the reasoning for a parent or loved one to have advanced knowledge where their loved one is for safety purposes, but this is the beginning of how they are selling this to the general public: by telling them that it is needed for safety sake. But this is how things like this always get passed......sell it as being attractive and it gets passed without the general public further researching the long-term possibilities with this type of shit.
This is a dangerous project......and it is only the beginning because the majority of the population will buy into the propaganda and not see the long-term implications of such tracking technology.
This was used in Germany in the late 30's and early 40's with IBM codes being tattood on people's arms.......they didn't have the means back then, but we do now.......
But this is by no means new technology. Animals have been microchipped for several years so we have known that it's possible. And people have worn ankle bracelets as tracking devices long before that. It's like putting a lojack on a person. There is also a program in your cellphone that makes you traceable by what towers you are near. So it's not like this is suddenly new technology and is a sign of the brave new world. It's been happening for awhile now.
ToxicVomit
06-21-2008, 05:03 AM
But this is by no means new technology. Animals have been microchipped for several years so we have known that it's possible. And people have worn ankle bracelets as tracking devices long before that. It's like putting a lojack on a person. There is also a program in your cellphone that makes you traceable by what towers you are near. So it's not like this is suddenly new technology and is a sign of the brave new world. It's been happening for awhile now.
...........as I have pointed out in numerous threads. The point is that little by little, we are moving in the direction of a tracked society. It is common knowledge that this technology has been used for a while - the point is that it is now being sold as something for convenience and safety - this is why it won't have to be forced upon people due to propaganda selling it as something attractive. Look at my other threads......the most recent one speaks of the attempted use in the 30's and 40's with IBM computers. We NOW have everything in place to effectively administer devices for the sole purpose of tracking a society.......and the population is buying into this making it a reality.
SkullyHB
06-21-2008, 07:02 AM
Perhaps the population just doesn't see it as that much of a problem.
ToxicVomit
06-21-2008, 08:21 AM
Perhaps the population just doesn't see it as that much of a problem.
and that is where the problem lays......
SkullyHB
06-21-2008, 08:56 AM
and that is where the problem lays......
I'm not that concerned about it myself. I have no reason to worry about being 'tracked'. And there is a benefit to these things - that's why they are attractive to people. If you have a cell phone they can 'track' you - but it give you mobility and in some cases, security. Credit & debit card transactions can be 'tracked' - but they give you convenience, security, and more financial flexibility. Grocery store discount cards 'track' your purchases - but they save you money. All of these things have benefits.
If someone with the means wants to 'track' me, I'm not too worried about it. They would get pretty bored pretty quickly. And if I'm just one of 250 million people being tracked, I doubt anyone would even pay attention to what I do.
ToxicVomit
06-21-2008, 09:15 AM
.......and the asleep will allow the elite to prevail........
SkullyHB
06-21-2008, 09:18 AM
.......and the asleep will allow the elite to prevail........
And this statement supports your view how?
ToxicVomit
06-21-2008, 09:35 AM
And this statement supports your view how?
Because ignorance of the larger picture combined with acceptance due to attractiveness, will in turn allow such policies to be put into place. I sure the hell hope that I am wrong, but this is how control occurs........the population is made to believe that it NEEDS certain things, so it accepts various invasions. Take a look at the Patriot Act.......FOR OUR FREEDOM, WE MUST GIVE UP SOME OF OUR FREEDOM! After all, the Constitution is "just a God Damn piece of paper!" For pure convenience in a selfish self-centered Capitalistic society, fuck everything else as long as I have what i want, when I want it.........and of course, as long as I "feel" safe!
xdipsomaniacx
06-21-2008, 10:13 AM
As it turns out, microchipping people is already not only a possibility but has been going on for awhile. Not only that, but people are paying to have it done. A nightclub in Spain uses the verichip, which costs it's customers about $150. They use it so they can go to the nightclub without ID or credit cards. That was in an article in 2004. There is also one that says in 2003, Mexico started using the verichip at $150 for install and a $50 annual fee. It's used to contain information such as name, blood type etc.
"The VeriChip can track subjects who are within 5 miles, but officials want to develop a new chip that can use satellite technology to track people who are farther away and may have been kidnapped.
While the idea of using the chip to track people has raised privacy concerns in the United States, the idea has been popular with Mexicans, who have been contacting Aceves and asking when the new global positioning chip will be available. The company hopes to have the new anti-kidnapping chip developed by 2003."
Now, I am not rushing out to be microchipped. At all. But it's been going on voluntarily for 5 years.
ToxicVomit
06-21-2008, 10:16 AM
As it turns out, microchipping people is already not only a possibility but has been going on for awhile. Not only that, but people are paying to have it done. A nightclub in Spain uses the verichip, which costs it's customers about $150. They use it so they can go to the nightclub without ID or credit cards. That was in an article in 2004. There is also one that says in 2003, Mexico started using the verichip at $150 for install and a $50 annual fee. It's used to contain information such as name, blood type etc.
"The VeriChip can track subjects who are within 5 miles, but officials want to develop a new chip that can use satellite technology to track people who are farther away and may have been kidnapped.
While the idea of using the chip to track people has raised privacy concerns in the United States, the idea has been popular with Mexicans, who have been contacting Aceves and asking when the new global positioning chip will be available. The company hopes to have the new anti-kidnapping chip developed by 2003."
Now, I am not rushing out to be microchipped. At all. But it's been going on voluntarily for 5 years.
and that's exactly what I have been talking about.........people volunteer out of convenience and "safety" where it won't have to be a forced agenda. Propaganda at its' finest.....
xdipsomaniacx
06-21-2008, 10:19 AM
and that's exactly what I have been talking about.........people volunteer out of convenience and "safety" where it won't have to be a forced agenda. Propaganda at its' finest.....
Yeah, well I for one can't abide by any convenience that costs me extra money. I'm already paying for enough conveniences. So I wouldn't be paying for that voluntary service anyhow. But if the masses want to be stupid, let them.
SkullyHB
06-21-2008, 10:40 AM
Because ignorance of the larger picture combined with acceptance due to attractiveness, will in turn allow such policies to be put into place. I sure the hell hope that I am wrong, but this is how control occurs........the population is made to believe that it NEEDS certain things, so it accepts various invasions.
I'm not saying that technology can't be abused - of course it can. But each individual weighs the 'benefits' vs the 'risk'.
You have an intenet connection - all your activity is logged. You probably have a cell phone or landline phone - more logging / tracking. You have an online store, which is operated by a third party, which requires setting up an account, and I assume they accept credit cards - more logging and tracking. You probably have a bank account - yet more logging / tracking. Yet you're ok with that, because you see the benefit to you as being greater than the risk. And that's fine.
I personally don't see microchipping kids as a positive thing, but I don't have kids, so I see no personal benefit from it. If I was a parent, maybe I would feel differently. I don't know. My only point is that everybody makes their own decisions on what is good or bad, and all the internet posts in the world are not going to change that.
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