Crust

[WarsNoFairytale90]

Love it? Hate it? Don't care?

Personally, I love it.

[Dickbutt McGilicutti]

love the music, not so big on crusties.

[Oi_Boot_boy]

seconded.

running into these guys at the show always makes me want to go home and scrub long and hard all over

[dead_head]

i love the music and the people. i dont care how disgusting they are. most of them are freakin comedians and they keep me entertained. I remember one time i was at the beach in Ocean Beach and a couple of friends and i were just sitting smoking and some crusty came up drunk as fuck and pissed off the cliffs right in front of us. He almost fell off the cliff a couple times and his friends were all sitting a few meters from us cheering him on. I gave them some food because they made me happy.

[tomthegreat]

crusties are good in my book

[Jersey Jake]

screw crusties. most of 'em are dumb rich kids who can go home AT ANY TIME. If not, mentally unstable to the point its hard to have a coherent conversation. crust music is pretty forgettable.

that said, if you actually lose your job, or get kicked out of your house/apartment, not because of any real fault of your own, I do sympathize with you, cause that can happen to anyone. If your living on the street cause you HAVE to, I'll put up with you. But if your just doing it to fit in with a scene, then your as low as the dirt you sleep in. Again crust music is otherwise forgettable.

The entire time I've been involved in the punk scene I've always had a job(most of which sucked), and payed my own way. I was pretty sympathetic to crust my first few days around the scene, but now, just fuck 'em.

edit: if you got a place to stay with running water and still don't bathe, you should be hosed down before your allowed into a show.

[No Cash]

i LOVE it

and my asshole is pleasantly open 24/7 for crusties

[xdipsomaniacx]

Take it or leave it, the music and the people. I couldn't care either way.

[thebigother]

screw crusties. most of 'em are dumb rich kids who can go home AT ANY TIME. If not, mentally unstable to the point its hard to have a coherent conversation. crust music is pretty forgettable.

that said, if you actually lose your job, or get kicked out of your house/apartment, not because of any real fault of your own, I do sympathize with you, cause that can happen to anyone. If your living on the street cause you HAVE to, I'll put up with you. But if your just doing it to fit in with a scene, then your as low as the dirt you sleep in. Again crust music is otherwise forgettable.

The entire time I've been involved in the punk scene I've always had a job(most of which sucked), and payed my own way. I was pretty sympathetic to crust my first few days around the scene, but now, just fuck 'em.

edit: if you got a place to stay with running water and still don't bathe, you should be hosed down before your allowed into a show.
Just about every crusty I know has a job, pays rent, has a fairly decent relationship with their parents, and is pretty on the ball mentally. Maybe you just know a lot of flaky people?

[-flo-]

i hate this scum

[xdipsomaniacx]

i hate this scum

which scum are you speaking of?

[Super_Destroyer]

I hate this scum...They can all just kiss mah grits!
http://files.splinder.com/a5bcc30581bd82684a71134ae1e84154.jpeg
Fixed.

[Johnny Running Shoes]

Nice.....Can you post a pic of Vera as well?:p

[Super_Destroyer]

Nice.....Can you post a pic of Vera as well?:p
Sorry, but I keep those ones in my "special" file :D

[mindy_does_stuff]

I love crusties. My friend Don is like a brother to me, and oh gawd, you should see his laundry day. I could dye my hair in that water. We joke about his filth all the time, in good humor. I also used to hang out with some squatters at TITS (Thursday in the Square in Buffalo, NY), and they were cool too.

[No Cash]

i am so fucking bored

[Oi_Boot_boy]

i have to take back my answer. today i hung out with this kid josef and he was really cool. he wasnt even dirty or anything

[joaquin]

peoples is peoples. the music is good.

[-flo-]

which scum are you speaking of?

crusties!

dunno whats about crusts in the usa, but here in germany they are the last dreg

can´t wash theirselves, always speak behind peoples backs and want trouble and discussions on shows. this bastards put the lies in our scene and divide the scene.

moreover this fucking pc-punks talking shit about chaospunx, oi-punks and skins

[Jersey Jake]

Just about every crusty I know has a job, pays rent, has a fairly decent relationship with their parents, and is pretty on the ball mentally. Maybe you just know a lot of flaky people?

now I am genuinely confused. I thought crust was all about being a squatter....

If you have a job, and a place to stay, why would you dress like a crusty?

scene is diffrent, diffrent places...

[-flo-]

now I am genuinely confused. I thought crust was all about being a squatter....

If you have a job, and a place to stay, why would you dress like a crusty?

scene is diffrent, diffrent places...

right!

[Danny Montez]

the music is ok. dont actually know any of the people.

[scum and villainy]

I've got no problems with crust. It's just as good as the rest of the bread!

[Spiralz]

Not much of a fan, I prefer thrash.

[EDogg]

vocals suck

never met a crust punk, i know of one, he sounds like a dick, cant say much if i havent met him myself though

[thebigother]

now I am genuinely confused. I thought crust was all about being a squatter....

If you have a job, and a place to stay, why would you dress like a crusty?

scene is diffrent, diffrent places...
I dress the way I do because it's how I'm most comfortable. I assume it's the same for most crusties.

[jonhomeowner]

the music is ok. dont actually know any of the people.
I try to avoid them.

Then again, I try to avoid most people that smell bad.

[EDogg]

I try to avoid them.

Then again, I try to avoid most people that smell bad.

how can you spot the unclean ones on the internet?

[jonhomeowner]

how can you spot the unclean ones on the internet?
I said nothing about the internet.

[EDogg]

I said nothing about the internet.

i know, it was just curiosity and prying for a funny answer

[sheena]

I try to avoid them.

Then again, I try to avoid most people that smell bad.

I keep my distance from crusties as well

[MsTapeWorm]

I absolutely hate the music, but I get along with most of them just fine. My boy actually use to be incredibly crusty, still listens to and loves the music but just showers more(hah). I always make fun of him just to bust his balls.
:)

[Dr Panic]

Crusties along with various other punkrocker types seem to enjoy faking poverty. I always thought this was stupid. The music is horrible they are just angrier dumber versions of hippies with worse music, If I didn't see it for myself I wouldn't believe it was possible.

"I see a crustcore kiddie with a gun to his head
Beggin for police but all the cops are dead
there ain't no government there ain't no rules
Just a bunch of motherfuckers and the people they control."

[Dickbutt McGilicutti]

I prefer the music more than I do most generic punk rock. There is also alot of good black metal influenced crust that's not repetitive.

[infestedsinner]

Crusties along with various other punkrocker types seem to enjoy faking poverty. I always thought this was stupid. The music is horrible they are just angrier dumber versions of hippies with worse music, If I didn't see it for myself I wouldn't believe it was possible.

just because someone wasnt born into a poor environment, doesnt mean they are faking poverty.. even if someone comes from a middle class/upper middle class backround, doesnt mean that they are faking anything. if they come from that kind of family and they realize that they dont want to be like that, than who is anyone to say that they cant do what they want to do with their life. i hate it when people think that just because someone may come from that kind of backround, that they should be ridiculed or shunned because of it. if they are true to what they stand for, than who gives a fuck.

[xdipsomaniacx]

just because someone wasnt born into a poor environment, doesnt mean they are faking poverty.. even if someone comes from a middle class/upper middle class backround, doesnt mean that they are faking anything. if they come from that kind of family and they realize that they dont want to be like that, than who is anyone to say that they cant do what they want to do with their life. i hate it when people think that just because someone may come from that kind of backround, that they should be ridiculed or shunned because of it. if they are true to what they stand for, than who gives a fuck.

I agree. There are kids that come from a background of money but don't agree with the values. Some people prefer dumpster diving and couch surfing to Gucci and Prada. Everyone has the right to their own values and life choices. I don't agree that crusties are quite the same as hippies. The smell might be the same, but the sentiment is different. I am not a fan of the music but whatever.....

[lewis]

please tell me what crust is or an example of a crust-core band:D

[Dr Panic]

just because someone wasnt born into a poor environment, doesnt mean they are faking poverty.

It does to me. I have been looked down upon by "crusties" for being too rich only to find out that finacially their parents were in a much better situation than mine. This is when I was 15-16 and still first into punk. Just the people I encountered not every one you've ever heard of.

even if someone comes from a middle class/upper middle class backround, doesnt mean that they are faking anything. if they come from that kind of family and they realize that they dont want to be like that,.

Well that is were the stupid part is they shouldn't be ashamed that their parents or whoever works and makes an honest living. It's quite honorable to earn what you have.

i hate it when people think that just because someone may come from that kind of backround, that they should be ridiculed or shunned because of it. if they are true to what they stand for, than who gives a fuck.

I agree they shouldn't be shunned or ridiculed. I was referring to kids who in fact have money but act poor or like they don't have money in order to fit in with the other "crusties" how the fuck is that being true to anything? You can have money and be crusty with the clothes, ideals, and personal values but why lie about your situation?

This post was not about you specifically lighten up geez persecution issues!

[infestedsinner]

It does to me. I have been looked down upon by "crusties" for being too rich only to find out that finacially their parents were in a much better situation than mine. This is when I was 15-16 and still first into punk. Just the people I encountered not every one you've ever heard of.



Well that is were the stupid part is they shouldn't be ashamed that their parents or whoever works and makes an honest living. It's quite honorable to earn what you have.



I agree they shouldn't be shunned or ridiculed. I was referring to kids who in fact have money but act poor or like they don't have money in order to fit in with the other "crusties" how the fuck is that being true to anything? You can have money and be crusty with the clothes, ideals, and personal values but why lie about your situation?

This post was not about you specifically lighten up geez persecution issues!

lol my post wasnt meant to sound like i was offended
your right that nobody should be ashamed of having money, but most of the crusties iv hung with dont lie about where they come from. i wasnt referring to the ones that do lie, as you said there isnt anything true about that. it sounded to me that you were making all crusties to be like that..

i was just pissed and shitfaced when i made that post, and i guess i was just taking out my frustrations on you, my apologies..

[thebigother]

Both of my parents are better off finacially than most people, but I don't have shit. I wish I faking for punk rock cred, but having no money is more attractive to me than being a grown assed adult living off my parents dime. And you can bet that I totally look down on other adults who have their parents pay their way.

[Dr Panic]

lol my post wasnt meant to sound like i was offended
your right that nobody should be ashamed of having money, but most of the crusties iv hung with dont lie about where they come from. i wasnt referring to the ones that do lie, as you said there isnt anything true about that. it sounded to me that you were making all crusties to be like that..

i was just pissed and shitfaced when i made that post, and i guess i was just taking out my frustrations on you, my apologies..

No need. I don't think they are all like that but going to shows in the Corona area breeds a certain type of crust punk that I'll just never get.

[Dr Panic]

Both of my parents are better off finacially than most people, but I don't have shit. I wish I faking for punk rock cred, but having no money is more attractive to me than being a grown assed adult living off my parents dime. And you can bet that I totally look down on other adults who have their parents pay their way.

Yeah I agree but I don't see many crustpunks over the age of 18 thus still being able to mooch off of mommy and daddy without shame.

[thebigother]

Maybe you don't know many crust punks over the age of 18, but that doesn't mean it's universal rule. Most of the crusties I know are over 18. To me this says that their are people involved in crust of all ages. Plus their are tons of people under the age of 18 who don't have their parents' support, for what ever reason.

[jonhomeowner]

Personally, I don't know any crusties that are under 18.

Probably because I wouldn't waste my time getting to know most people that are 10 YEARS YOUNGER THAN I AM.

[MsTapeWorm]

Personally, I don't know any crusties that are under 18.

Probably because I wouldn't waste my time getting to know most people that are 10 YEARS YOUNGER THAN I AM.

http://www.ageconcern.org.uk/AgeConcern/Images/ageism.jpg

[xdipsomaniacx]

I keep a badly tattooed ex hobo who owns like 3 outfits in my bed. And I make him listen to Alkaline Trio. :cool:

[jonhomeowner]

http://www.ageconcern.org.uk/AgeConcern/Images/ageism.jpg
Damn straight. I love it, too.

[MsTapeWorm]

Damn straight. I love it, too.

I think you just use it to cover up your love of under aged girls. Kinda like men who are in the closet pretend to be homophobic

:)

[jonhomeowner]

I think you just use it to cover up your love of under aged girls. Kinda like men who are in the closet pretend to be homophobic
Nah, if I loved underage girls, I'd admit it.

I freely admit to dating and sleeping with a shitload of 19 year-olds. I've been doing that since I was 17. I don't care. I'm 27 and right now, I'm in a relationship with a 19 year-old. When I was 25, the same thing happened. Between then and now, I slept with at least three other 19 year-olds.

I like 'em young, but not as young as you. Sorry, deary. I know you want me, but you'll have to wait two years. :)

[MsTapeWorm]

Nah, if I loved underage girls, I'd admit it.

I freely admit to dating and sleeping with a shitload of 19 year-olds. I've been doing that since I was 17. I don't care. I'm 27 and right now, I'm in a relationship with a 19 year-old. When I was 25, the same thing happened. Between then and now, I slept with at least three other 19 year-olds.

I like 'em young, but not as young as you. Sorry, deary. I know you want me, but you'll have to wait two years. :)

Hahaha that was not at all a confession of my want for you. I think I can live without sleeping with you.

[No Cash]

I keep a badly tattooed ex hobo who owns like 3 outfits in my bed. And I make him listen to Alkaline Trio. :cool:
thats some serious fucking torture

[jonhomeowner]

thats some serious fucking torture
Not as bad as reading your posts.

[No Cash]

Not as bad as reading your posts.
says the king of worthless, useless, and pointless threads

[jonhomeowner]

says the king of worthless, useless, and pointless threads
My threads create discussion.

Your posts just create laughter. At you. Not with you.

[Dickbutt McGilicutti]

cause you are the forum viking.

[xdipsomaniacx]

thats some serious fucking torture

The Alkaline Trio part of the bed with me part? :rolleyes:

[Jersey Jake]

Crusties along with various other punkrocker types seem to enjoy faking poverty. I always thought this was stupid. The music is horrible they are just angrier dumber versions of hippies with worse music, If I didn't see it for myself I wouldn't believe it was possible.



just get it over with shave your head and become a skin already. At this point you might as well.

There is some truth to this though. Its not the fact that they're from middle class/upper class backgrounds, its the fact they could allievate their situation by simply trying. Its the fact a good portion of them could go back at any time, and most do within 1-2 years.

The rest of us, our actions have long lasting consequences.

[xdipsomaniacx]

just get it over with shave your head and become a skin already. At this point you might as well.

There is some truth to this though. Its not the fact that they're from middle class/upper class backgrounds, its the fact they could allievate their situation by simply trying. Its the fact a good portion of them could go back at any time, and most do within 1-2 years.

The rest of us, our actions have long lasting consequences.

I'm all for working hard and taking care of yourself, but do you really think that these kids are like this because they don't want to try? I know that for a lot of people, it's just an attitude about not caring about the norms of establishment that include things like money and possessions. They care about getting drunk, going to shows, being with friends, listening to music, standing up for their beliefs, not being part of the system. They want to travel and have fun and not have cares in the world. They don't want to go home. That's not for me, but I can see the appeal.

[Jersey Jake]

I'm all for working hard and taking care of yourself, but do you really think that these kids are like this because they don't want to try? I know that for a lot of people, it's just an attitude about not caring about the norms of establishment that include things like money and possessions. They care about getting drunk, going to shows, being with friends, listening to music, standing up for their beliefs, not being part of the system. They want to travel and have fun and not have cares in the world. They don't want to go home. That's not for me, but I can see the appeal.

there a plenty of kids who get fucked by the system, and for them I feel bad. (isn't that what I've been screaming all along if you care to read my rants). But I won't denying there are plenty of kids who think its all a game or something, and even have the nerve to mock those who had to work just to keep their head above. I won't deny what I've seen with my own eyes. To accept them would be to further spit in the face of everyone who's been in a same situation as me, but worked harder than me to get less, which numbers more good people than I've met in crusties.

For example, if I lived the crust life today, there wouldn't be a soul in the world who'd help me back if I decided I had enough. I'd be further at the mercy of society. This is a truth for many many people.

I'm not materialistic. But if I wanna go to shows, keep my freinds, and get drunk, I need to work. I don't have a free ride.

Mabey I should be the one shopping for a bomber jacket....

edit: I really should write a manifesto of sorts. I am not entirely sure if I really want, and pretty sure I don't have the patience.

[Dickbutt McGilicutti]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/ashgroovy/CrustardHobos.jpg

[xdipsomaniacx]

there a plenty of kids who get fucked by the system, and for them I feel bad. (isn't that what I've been screaming all along if you care to read my rants). But I won't denying there are plenty of kids who think its all a game or something, and even have the nerve to mock those who had to work just to keep their head above. I won't deny what I've seen with my own eyes. To accept them would be to further spit in the face of everyone who's been in a same situation as me, but worked harder than me to get less, which numbers more good people than I've met in crusties.

For example, if I lived the crust life today, there wouldn't be a soul in the world who'd help me back if I decided I had enough. I'd be further at the mercy of society. This is a truth for many many people.

I'm not materialistic. But if I wanna go to shows, keep my freinds, and get drunk, I need to work. I don't have a free ride.

Mabey I should be the one shopping for a bomber jacket....

edit: I really should write a manifesto of sorts. I am not entirely sure if I really want, and pretty sure I don't have the patience.

I wasn't talking about kids that get fucked by the system. I was just talking about those that don't want to be part of it. I don't know, I personally know some very good people that are or used to be of the homeless trainhopping dumpster diving no care for possessions variety. And I like them.

[Dickbutt McGilicutti]

I find it ironic how most crusties are all for A//E, but will resort to pyshical violence if you don't act or think like them.

[xdipsomaniacx]

I find it ironic how most crusties are all for A//E, but will resort to pyshical violence if you don't act or think like them.

I have never encountered this myself. When have you had someone react to you with violence?

[thebigother]

I had no idea my house mates were beating me up all the time. What I find I ironic is that in a house full of crusties that it's the kid who's into hardcore that's always late with their share of the rent and bills money because he spent it all on booze, drugs and cigarettes. Thankfully none of my housemates are into generalizations as much as certain members of these forums, because I'd probably get annoyed with them constantly pointing out that I don't live up to my steretype or how ironic it is that I'm the token drunk of the house.

[BCTX77]

I've never seen the statement "I've never met one, but...." so many times. Worst of all, even though they admit they've never seen one, or dont know any, or only know one, or whatever they still have an unshakable opinion of them.

If you've never met a crustie, or a skinhead, or whatever subculture you want to make your sweeping generalizations about.... GO OUTSIDE!!! get off your mom's/girlfriend's computer and go to a show. seriously. or visit a different town or something. Its just pitiful. I'm from central texas, which is pretty much a cultural wasteland, and the last place on earth one would think to look for a crustie, skin, or streepunk, (although i'm surprised, they seem to be everywhere if you're willing to look hard enough) and i've managed to meet more than my fair share of all these subcultures. i can't fathom it being that difficult to find new interesting people. Some of you people are just so mindless and bigoted. Makes me wonder if this is punkrockers.com, or shut-ins.com

[EDogg]

bugs me when gutterpunks are aligned with crusties, making crust punks sound like heroin addicts, which also annoys me, because every gutter punk ive met wasnt on heroin, a mate of mine used to do heroin and its still messing up his life 7 years after he quit. i gave him all my money for a flat and havent seen him in months too:(

[Dickbutt McGilicutti]

Gutterpunks are kinda worthless. I haven't met one yet that has the social skills past of an 11yr old.

[EDogg]

this guy kicks ass, the only reason he was homeless was because he had to choose to either get rid of his dog or be homeless

[Jersey Jake]

I wasn't talking about kids that get fucked by the system. I was just talking about those that don't want to be part of it. I don't know, I personally know some very good people that are or used to be of the homeless trainhopping dumpster diving no care for possessions variety. And I like them.

You make it seem like the rest of us wanted to be part of the system, or place great value in material possession.

None of us wanna be part of the system, we all gotta work if we wanna eat, get drunk, or go to shows. Some dumb rich kids with very lax parents can skate the system only cause they've got parents who can bail 'em out of trouble. The rest of us don't.

Again, those who got tossed out of the system, for the various senseless reasons the system has for things, I can relate, and accept. Those who do it to prove how fucking cool they are can go screw.

Nothing personal, but you gotta stop living in this fantasy world here.

[xdipsomaniacx]

You make it seem like the rest of us wanted to be part of the system, or place great value in material possession.

None of us wanna be part of the system, we all gotta work if we wanna eat, get drunk, or go to shows. Some dumb rich kids with very lax parents can skate the system only cause they've got parents who can bail 'em out of trouble. The rest of us don't.

Again, those who got tossed out of the system, for the various senseless reasons the system has for things, I can relate, and accept. Those who do it to prove how fucking cool they are can go screw.

Nothing personal, but you gotta stop living in this fantasy world here.

pfffttt.... which fantasy world is that? I don't need a lecture on how we all have to work. Perhaps you could have given that to me at 16 before I got a job and moved out? You assume that everyone that doesn't live the lifestyle that you do must be a rich kid who is just out to play a game.

[Jersey Jake]

pfffttt.... which fantasy world is that? I don't need a lecture on how we all have to work. Perhaps you could have given that to me at 16 before I got a job and moved out? You assume that everyone that doesn't live the lifestyle that you do must be a rich kid who is just out to play a game.

no, I just go by what people tell me. I don't know how you grow up, but you seem to have this notion you can live like a crusty without someone on the outside supporting you. I'm pretty damn sure your not even close to the type of person I was talking about.

You explicitly told me the argument wasn't those with troubles, but just those who perfectly capable of functioning normally, just chose not to, and leach off people. It makes no sense why anyone who's had to work a hard day just to eat, would somehow accept these people. Its an insult.

[xdipsomaniacx]

no, I just go by what people tell me. I don't know how you grow up, but you seem to have this notion you can live like a crusty without someone on the outside supporting you. I'm pretty damn sure your not even close to the type of person I was talking about.

You explicitly told me the argument wasn't those with troubles, but just those who perfectly capable of functioning normally, just chose not to, and leach off people. It makes no sense why anyone who's had to work a hard day just to eat, would somehow accept these people. Its an insult.

I grew up poor and I still am poor. That doesn't make me care how other people live though. My parents weren't rich and no one gives me hand outs, but I am not angry at the kids that do live that way. It doesn't affect me in any way. And well, people give dirty kids that are out panhandling money every day, so obviously someone is accepting of it.

[thebigother]

You explicitly told me the argument wasn't those with troubles, but just those who perfectly capable of functioning normally, just chose not to, and leach off people. It makes no sense why anyone who's had to work a hard day just to eat, would somehow accept these people. Its an insult.
Nobody is forcing anybody else to financially support crust punks. When you see a punk pan handling for booze you have a choice to either give them money or not to. Nobody is leaching so much as somebody is choosing to share. If they're on welfare, so what? There are lost of things my tax dollars go towards that I don't support, but thems the breaks. I however have yet to meet many crusties who are on welfare, being anarchists and all.

[lewis]

please tell me what crust is or an example of a crust-core band:D

i'm not being sarcastic:)

[bre]

I think the music is Gnar

[EDogg]

crust punk came from the UK, crust punks can get by very easily off the system, theyre not idiots they can find ways to get benefits as the UK has a very confusing but potentially generous benefits system

im getting the impression that it is impossible to live in america without a job?

[Slipshod]

I love crust punk music, Umm And I've been told I dress like a crust punk...
I useally wear torn jeans that are black with bleach on them, I like the look of it, I dont wear them to be cool. Back when I was 12 My dad gave me a pair of Light blue/ bleached torn jeans, and I just fell In love with that look... and to this day I bleach most of my jeans, I just love the look of it..

For the most part my Immediate family is considered poor, Where as my mom's side is upper class, and are fucking uptight selfish jerks...So none of us keep in touch with them.

I've been homeless before, Ran away at the age of 15 or 16, right after my mom had left us, cause my dad just started taking everything out on me and my bro. It was'nt bad on my bro, cause he was a Sponcered skateboarder, so he was kinda the favorite. I Ended up being on the streets for a few nights and then a friend offered me a place to stay. It was a backroom. It was honestly a good life exsperiance. Few other punks stayed ther, people came and went, But the ones who stayed on a dailey basis were me, this kid nick who was Into punk/rave...A Nazi bonehead, some Goth chick and This huge Blackbelt drug lord type dude. Anyways I did'nt stay for free even though it was offered, Did alot of work around the property, and ran favors for people. I stayed for about 3-4 weeks maybe longer. Now me and nick were considered to be the punkers, and some of the people ther thought we were theifs and just druggie's..Which is the funny thing. I had no job so I continued to do whatever chore need to be done, and Nick who had a job paid rent and also did work around the place. The Bonehead nazi, Had a job, Never paid any rent, did any work, didnt do shit except stir up problems.

In the end, alot of my stuff was stolen, from what I was told by the host, the bonehead stole from everyone ther. And shit just got worse and worse so I left and went back home, nothing had gotten any better.

I learned alot about people while staying ther, alot of the people I met were pretty cool except the bonehead.
That exsperiance taught me to appreciate the home I did have even though it was misrable ther. I knew I was safe ther for the most part though.

Anyways most people call me a crust punk, But Im not a begger, I dont do drugs, and I dont smell. I dont own a T.V anymore, and the comp I have was Bought with money I earned while being a Union Laborer. Yea I look like a damn Bum, But Im not one.

I have met plenty of other crust punks and ther good people, the ones I have met arnt beggers and they didnt really smell other then the smell of whiskey, and the one that were homeless, Made money doing odd jobs,to try and get back on ther feet and some that I have met did charity work even though they were homeless.

So I dont Understand where anyone here get's off saying that crustie's are just dumb dirty rude people.

Btw Im 20 now, Have no job, But plan on getting into the sheet metal union, I still dress like a damn Bum, even when I was a Union laberer while building kaiser ( 2 years ago ) I dressed in the same bleached torn jeans that I wear today, They have value to me that No one else can see =P

I have met cool people in all of the sub cultures I have come across, and the people I dis-liked were also dis-liked by said cuture, May it be the Punk, ravers, Goths, and satenist....Ther are allways gonna be people in every culture that are just down right stupid jack ass's and theive's it has nothing to do with culture, it has to do with that single person's mentality

[Aero Autisim]

yeah, i dress "crust" too. by accident.

crust punks are awesome, i'm not friends with any, but i've met a few and they weren't the least bit sketchy.

i love some of their music. wolfbrigade?

[sarisucks]

Wow, punks stereotyping other punks? I didn't know it could get to this level. That's really fucking sad.

[A michael E]

Wow, punks stereotyping other punks? I didn't know it could get to this level. That's really fucking sad.

yeah i know. what happened? how do you dress crust? do you like, piss on your shirt or something, or not shower for a week? :D

i love the music though, and lately ive been listening to his hero is gone and anarcrust

crusties, however, im picky with. some are lazy and stupid, and others are all right and funny.

[jonhomeowner]

Wow, punks stereotyping other punks? I didn't know it could get to this level. That's really fucking sad.
HEY! YOU! I REMEMBER YOU!

[sarisucks]

yeah i know. what happened? how do you dress crust? do you like, piss on your shirt or something, or not shower for a week? :D

i love the music though, and lately ive been listening to his hero is gone and anarcrust

crusties, however, im picky with. some are lazy and stupid, and others are all right and funny.

I think that's how people of any subculture are; there are a lot of assholes, a lot of misconceptions and a lot of exceptions.

HEY! YOU! I REMEMBER YOU!

Who are you again?

[Captain_Obvious]

I think that's how people of any subculture are; there are a lot of assholes, a lot of misconceptions and a lot of exceptions

Especially in the punk rock genre...

[jonhomeowner]

Who are you again?
Jonhomeowner. I live near Towson. You said you were moving to go to Goucher.

[sarisucks]

Jonhomeowner. I live near Towson. You said you were moving to go to Goucher.

I was kidding! :p

[jonhomeowner]

I was kidding! :p
Jerk!

[Aero Autisim]

yeah i know. what happened? how do you dress crust? do you like, piss on your shirt or something, or not shower for a week? :D

i love the music though, and lately ive been listening to his hero is gone and anarcrust

crusties, however, im picky with. some are lazy and stupid, and others are all right and funny.

no, they dress punk usually, except more black clothes and lots more shit sewn on them i guess. i saw this one guy wearing pants literally made out of black and white band patches.

i guss if you were truly one of those squatter crust punks, you'd wear whatever clothes you had, or something.

[A michael E]

no, they dress punk usually, except more black clothes and lots more shit sewn on them i guess. i saw this one guy wearing pants literally made out of black and white band patches.

i guss if you were truly one of those squatter crust punks, you'd wear whatever clothes you had, or something.

ok, well, ive seen a crusty in a red icons of filth shirt, with smelly stained jeans. i guess hes not a crusty because its not black and nothing was sewn into them either?:p
i dunno, all im saying is that i dont think your appearal really determines whether or not youre crusty.
just saying

[Aero Autisim]

yeah, crust could be anything if you chose it as a lifestyle choice.

but then there's those people who aren't actually squatters or anything, that are just in it for the music. i've mostly seen them in black vests worn over black hoodies with black pants. shit like that.

but that's from the VERY few people i've seen wearing like crust band shirts or patches. when i think crust, i think angry, pessimistic, nihilist, who listens to music that's like a mix between grindcore and crass.

[EDogg]

ok, well, ive seen a crusty in a red icons of filth shirt, with smelly stained jeans. i guess hes not a crusty because its not black and nothing was sewn into them either?:p
i dunno, all im saying is that i dont think your appearal really determines whether or not youre crusty.
just saying

icons of filth arent a crust band though. and if he didnt smell of piss, hes a poseur

[A michael E]

icons of filth arent a crust band though. and if he didnt smell of piss, hes a poseur

hahaha i know they arent crust. but i guess this one likes anarcho as well. uhh, i dont really smell him, but im assuming those stains on him are piss? i saw him a couple days ago, matter of fact. he was sporting a police bastard shirt. thought it was nifty:cool:

[sarisucks]

I love how non-crust kids know so much about what constitutes being crust.

[jonhomeowner]

Who cares? All subdivision just serve to... READY FOR IT?

DIVIDE.

People don't need to DIVIDE more.

[Aero Autisim]

the scene where i live definitely lacks unity, all the 77 street/ oi skinheads hate all the crust, thrash and hardcore kids.

there actually are a lot of crusties where i live too, just not the homeless kind.

[A michael E]

the scene where i live definitely lacks unity, all the 77 street/ oi skinheads hate all the crust, thrash and hardcore kids.

there actually are a lot of crusties where i live too, just not the homeless kind.

hahaha yeah i know. the skinheads hate the crusties here too. i think its because shere terror - just cant hate enough, tells them too.

and im not constituting what crust is, im actually saying the opposite. because i thought it was a lifestyle not a fashion

and im not dividing anything, but its definatly its own lifestyle.
just saying guys...

[MsTapeWorm]

the scene where i live definitely lacks unity, all the 77 street/ oi skinheads hate all the crust, thrash and hardcore kids.

there actually are a lot of crusties where i live too, just not the homeless kind.

You know, there's homeless kinds of every other scene, too.

[deadendkid91]

just because someone wasnt born into a poor environment, doesnt mean they are faking poverty.. even if someone comes from a middle class/upper middle class backround, doesnt mean that they are faking anything. if they come from that kind of family and they realize that they dont want to be like that, than who is anyone to say that they cant do what they want to do with their life. i hate it when people think that just because someone may come from that kind of backround, that they should be ridiculed or shunned because of it. if they are true to what they stand for, than who gives a fuck.

COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!

[thebigother]

I love how non-crust kids know so much about what constitutes being crust.

I believe the only explanation for this can be that these kids are involved highly scientific interdisciplinary studies of crust. It's cool enough the way they tackle a sociological issue from an anthropological standpoint, but the in depth analysis of the psychological profile of a crust punk and the various case studies are what really blow me away.

[Aero Autisim]

I believe the only explanation for this can be that these kids are involved highly scientific interdisciplinary studies of crust. It's cool enough the way they tackle a sociological issue from an anthropological standpoint, but the in depth analysis of the psychological profile of a crust punk and the various case studies are what really blow me away.

woah, i was just gonna say that i listen to a lot of crust, but it doesn't really affect my lifestyle choices so i can't really be considered a crust punk i guess.

[Slipshod]

woah, i was just gonna say that i listen to a lot of crust, but it doesn't really affect my lifestyle choices so i can't really be considered a crust punk i guess.

Yea Thebigother has a way with words...

[Nips]

i dont really listen to any crust.

however, i dont mind it when its put on. i like the scene here, its small and these kind of subdevisions dont really exist. i hang out with crusty kids and regular 77 types all the time and theres never any arguements about idiologies or whatever. its pretty decent really.

[joaquin]

hahaha yeah i know. the skinheads hate the crusties here too. i think its because shere terror - just cant hate enough, tells them too.


how do you figure that?

[Slipshod]

hahaha yeah i know. the skinheads hate the crusties here too. i think its because shere terror - just cant hate enough, tells them too.

I think you got Skinheads confused with neo-nazi bonehead's... All the skinhead's I have met are pretty damn cool and nice...I'm starting to think you may just attract the wrong people, but I dont know. As said before seems Like it only take's a few jackass's to slander the name of a whole sub cultral... Oh well

[EDogg]

all the punks here get along except from a couple of people who dont like each other because of personal things, everyones in a concensus that straight edge is retarded though

[lewis]

hahaha.

[A michael E]

how do you figure that?

well, the whole beggining of that song talks about how the guy hates squatters rights and such.

I think you got Skinheads confused with neo-nazi bonehead's... All the skinhead's I have met are pretty damn cool and nice...I'm starting to think you may just attract the wrong people, but I dont know. As said before seems Like it only take's a few jackass's to slander the name of a whole sub cultral... Oh well

and no, i know what a skinhead is. if it was a nazi i wouldve said nazi. i hang with these skinheads as well, they arent bad. its just they all dont seem to like the lazy squatting crusties. is all. because they seem to give them shit at shows and such.

[Aero Autisim]

I think you got Skinheads confused with neo-nazi bonehead's... All the skinhead's I have met are pretty damn cool and nice...I'm starting to think you may just attract the wrong people, but I dont know. As said before seems Like it only take's a few jackass's to slander the name of a whole sub cultral... Oh well

in my town it's not so much skinheads as it is oi/folk street punk. and it's mostly an age thing, with 21+ shows, and them saying that kids shouldnt be into punk or something like that. but there's older people in our scene too.

it doesn't help that our scene is all really fast thrash shit either. people generally tend to hate that stuff.

[A michael E]

aww man that sucks. i crave thrashy fast shit. theres not enough in this area. it sucks, i think like, a couple bands from around here that are thrashy, and thats like praxis and psycho. and they like never play shows...

[Aero Autisim]

aww man that sucks. i crave thrashy fast shit. theres not enough in this area. it sucks, i think like, a couple bands from around here that are thrashy, and thats like praxis and psycho. and they like never play shows...

powerviolence/ thrash is the biggest thing chicago has going for it right now, the scene is ridiculously huge. and the biggest part is like in pilsen, so there's a lot of latinos AND whites united in the thrash scene, which is pretty cool i think.

[A michael E]

sounds cool enough. the biggest thing this area has going for it is like, hardcore and straight edge....yuuuck:(

[sarisucks]

Baltimore is mostly crust and grind shit, which suits me just fine.

[jonhomeowner]

Baltimore is mostly crust and grind shit, which suits me just fine.
Shit being the key word in the above sentence.

[Aero Autisim]

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[Aero Autisim]

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[Nips]

so are they your photos or what? theyre pretty cool.

[cancer]

Can't say I've ever met a crust punk before, so can't say I hate em or anything. I think as long as the person is cool they can do whatever they like with their life and I won't care. I'm not about to judge a person for the lifestyle they choose. I'll judge them for how they treat me when I meet them, and I'll judge them alone, not the people they're associated with.

I like those pics you posted Autism. Where are they from? Are they yours?

[MsTapeWorm]

Wow, a lot of people on here have never met a crust punk before... yet there's so many opinions..

[Aero Autisim]

Wow, a lot of people on here have never met a crust punk before... yet there's so many opinions..

there's different kinds i suppose.

there's the squatter types. AND then the grindcore types that are just in it for the music.

[A michael E]

there's different kinds i suppose.

there's the squatter types. AND then the grindcore types that are just in it for the music.

yeah. and the two make all the difference. squatter kinds seem to be kinda...smelly, and i dont want to be near them at shows or have them stage dive on me, because they smell like my garbage. but the grind kind that just listen to the music are all right, and not because they dont smell.

oh, and, who are those people in those pictures? like, i know theyre crusties, but i mean like, did you take those pictures or..?

[ToXic]

People are people whether they're crusty or not, some are cool, some are douche bags, depends on the person.

The LA area scene seams to be nothing but Crust/Grind, that's all you hear at backyard shows and its all repetitive and the same sounding. Don't get me wrong, I like crust music for the most part, but it gets really boring when it's all that is around.

[ToXic]

powerviolence/ thrash is the biggest thing chicago has going for it right now, the scene is ridiculously huge. and the biggest part is like in pilsen, so there's a lot of latinos AND whites united in the thrash scene, which is pretty cool i think.

latinos and whites? lol. Its funny to hear that like it's something special. In southern california about 80% of the scene is latino it seams like. And its not uncommon to go to a show that may be like anywhere from 25-50% mexican gang bangers.

[lewis]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/punk_is_dead_999/25_polaroidkidd_164022.jpg
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http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/punk_is_dead_999/41_polaroidkidd_167701.jpg

Now i understand what crust is.

[Aero Autisim]

latinos and whites? lol. Its funny to hear that like it's something special. In southern california about 80% of the scene is latino it seams like. And its not uncommon to go to a show that may be like anywhere from 25-50% mexican gang bangers.

i never really see gangbangers, only blacks but they're the ones that don't really listen to punk and just might randomly wander into a show. it's the funniest shit ever, i've seen guys like that jump right into the pit, all laughing about it and shit.

[Slipshod]

i never really see gangbangers, only blacks but they're the ones that don't really listen to punk and just might randomly wander into a show. it's the funniest shit ever, i've seen guys like that jump right into the pit, all laughing about it and shit.

Lucky you, I see Gangbangers all the time, Im not sure if they would actully do anything, But... Just a few days ago my bro and I and 3 friends were at Taco Bell and 3 black guys walk out and saw that my freind Trevor was riding a Old Classic schwinn crate, and starts asking to ride it. Trevor responds " It's not Mine" so one of them ask's whos is it . I say " It's Mine and no you cant ride it" he was being kinda cool at first and said " alright, it's fine, cool bike though". Then 5 more of em walk out , and suddenly ther all talking shit to me and my friends. And i just start laughing and say "Speak some fucking english I cant understand all that slang and slur" so one walks up to me and say's " I got a gun" I just laughed and told him I didnt care and that it was probably fake" and got pissed.. Then the biggest one, who wasnt very big at all, Just tall, grabs his friend and says " ther's witness's here... and they walked away talking shit... That's the worst is been for me where I live Some, of The People I have met and would consider a "real Gangbanger" surprisngly showed me alot of respect. Kinda weird

[Aero Autisim]

Lucky you, I see Gangbangers all the time, Im not sure if they would actully do anything, But... Just a few days ago my bro and I and 3 friends were at Taco Bell and 3 black guys walk out and saw that my freind Trevor was riding a Old Classic schwinn crate, and starts asking to ride it. Trevor responds " It's not Mine" so one of them ask's whos is it . I say " It's Mine and no you cant ride it" he was being kinda cool at first and said " alright, it's fine, cool bike though". Then 5 more of em walk out , and suddenly ther all talking shit to me and my friends. And i just start laughing and say "Speak some fucking english I cant understand all that slang and slur" so one walks up to me and say's " I got a gun" I just laughed and told him I didnt care and that it was probably fake" and got pissed.. Then the biggest one, who wasnt very big at all, Just tall, grabs his friend and says " ther's witness's here... and they walked away talking shit... That's the worst is been for me where I live Some, of The People I have met and would consider a "real Gangbanger" surprisngly showed me alot of respect. Kinda weird

no i see them a lot, just not at punk shows. i live in a really ghetto neighborhood. all of the projects in chicago are getting torn down and they've been moving to my town.

in a month or two im moving to the pilsen neighborhood on the south side. it's not the greatest neighborhood, but the whole latino/polish hardcore punk scene (southkore) is based out of there, so it's gonna be pretty awesome.

[Nips]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/punk_is_dead_999/02_polaroidkidd_111549.jpg


i just realised the motion in this picture. thats awesome.

[Slipshod]

no i see them a lot, just not at punk shows. i live in a really ghetto neighborhood. all of the projects in chicago are getting torn down and they've been moving to my town.

in a month or two im moving to the pilsen neighborhood on the south side. it's not the greatest neighborhood, but the whole latino/polish hardcore punk scene (southkore) is based out of there, so it's gonna be pretty awesome.

yea, well we got section 8 houseing poping up everywhere... Its bullshit

[ToXic]

i just realised the motion in this picture. thats awesome.

oh shit, you're right, that is awesome

[Phil_Spectre]

Amebix is awesome, don't care about the people into it.

[EDogg]

the crust squatters are generally hard as nails in england, then again if you had to dumpster dive for a sandwich you wouldnt really take much shit haha

[snottrag]

hmmm crusties....... well to be honest most of them are full of shit. they are rich kids who worship bands like leftover crack and base thier lives off leftover crack lyrics. i squated in a abandond house for 2 months because my parents kicked me out and managed to shower in public bathrooms at gyms and schools and community pools. i managed to work a fulltime job and not be a douchebag. the house got raided one day when i was out. so i didnt get busted but "crusties" have no excuse for thier bullshit stereotypes. i stole two beds a heater a couch, a tv, a radio 3 tables i let people crash thier whenever. i miss it. but i made good with my folks so they let me live at home again.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/wetfartfuck/l_a8165707fab671b5db02171d682b4b07.jpg
the house

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begining


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p.s. i am not a crusty nor have i ever claimed to be.

[lewis]

hmmm crusties....... well to be honest most of them are full of shit. they are rich kids who worship bands like leftover crack and base thier lives off leftover crack lyrics. i squated in a abandond house for 2 months because my parents kicked me out and managed to shower in public bathrooms at gyms and schools and community pools. i managed to work a fulltime job and not be a douchebag. the house got raided one day when i was out. so i didnt get busted but "crusties" have no excuse for thier bullshit stereotypes. i stole two beds a heater a couch, a tv, a radio 3 tables i let people crash thier whenever. i miss it. but i made good with my folks so they let me live at home again.






http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/wetfartfuck/l_5b142fd5599da23a3d4f286c041e77d1.jpg







p.s. i am not a crusty nor have i ever claimed to be.

With my ex-girlfriend, by the looks of it. The similarity is uncanny:confused:

[GOp0g077]

Personally,I don't give a damn who you are and how you live.You've got the right to choose and the right to lose.Crusties have tried preaching me their bullshit propoghanda about beating the system is not working,sleeping under bridges,and not supporting major corporations. To me,none of this makes any sense. The system is happy to see you jobless you fit right into their stereotypes they made for you. Living with mommy and daddy or living with the rats doesn't make you a rebel it makes you a bum.Not eating at Mcdonalds and buying things from other major franchises doesn't put a dent in the economy nor their pockets at all,or at least so minute they don't give a damn that's just chump change.I can't stand crusty music because it sounds too metal grindcore just sounds like shit to me.You wanted my opinion you got it.

[Mescal]

Personally,I don't give a damn who you are and how you live.You've got the right to choose and the right to lose.Crusties have tried preaching me their bullshit propoghanda about beating the system is not working,sleeping under bridges,and not supporting major corporations. To me,none of this makes any sense. The system is happy to see you jobless you fit right into their stereotypes they made for you. Living with mommy and daddy or living with the rats doesn't make you a rebel it makes you a bum.Not eating at Mcdonalds and buying things from other major franchises doesn't put a dent in the economy nor their pockets at all,or at least so minute they don't give a damn that's just chump change.I can't stand crusty music because it sounds too metal grindcore just sounds like shit to me.You wanted my opinion you got it.

heheh.. not to mention. Crusties say that they hate all kinds of "media" yet they are on the net.

[Radiation]

crusties, haha sounds like a rejected mcvities biscuit.

[GOp0g077]

heheh.. not to mention. Crusties say that they hate all kinds of "media" yet they are on the net.

exactly...

[snottrag]

With my ex-girlfriend, by the looks of it. The similarity is uncanny:confused:


haha really? she looks like every girl arround here.
your ex's name wasnt victoria was it?

[lewis]

haha really? she looks like every girl arround here.
your ex's name wasnt victoria was it?

Nah, and she didn't live in America:p

[snottrag]

got ya

[infestedsinner]

lol its funny how you guys talk down about people that you consider as something as negative as the things that you consider almost blasphemous to our society. from what ive read, the only people that dont talk down about crusties are the people that are actually friends with them or have socialized with them to a reasonable extent. how are you going to gather them all up in one generalization when you dont even understand who that person is and why they choose to live the life that they do. why does anything matter when the life they live is divided by most of the restrictions and "morals" that the people that live around us abide by. sure people are going to disagree with me, especially if they've had their own bad experiences with crusties, but from my experience with people that live that lifestyle, they are the only people i would want to be around...

[Simonsin]

I think we have a 2.0 version of crusties here in south Texas but we just call them drunks or bums.

Cheers!

[Radiation]

peoples is peoples. the music is good.

people is peoples, wise words.

[Simonsin]

peoples is peoples, wise words.

right on right on!

[lovinthapunk]

LOL. This topic is funny and the response is funny as well.

[Hatad_och_Hatar]

I like crust, but very few seems to think that bands like Mob 47, Anti Cimex, Discharge, Terveet Kädet, Siege is but they are not at all crust bands but hardcore bands..crust is much more metallic/grindish/harsher vocals, bands I'd consider crust would be Skitsystem, Extreme Noise Terror, Deviated Instinct, Dystopia, No Security, Antischism, Hellshock..

[snottrag]

crusties suck fuck all crusties!

[punx92]

crusties are awesome but im not one of them i dont think i could ever be.

[scum and villainy]

Like I said before, the crust is just as good as the rest of the bread.

[punxlife]

they dont matter to me, there all good people even if they are a little dirty

[Daily Life Arrggh]

they dont matter to me, there all good people even if they are a little dirty

alot of the crusty kids in my area are overly pc and won't stick up for them selves and will probably become scenester/hipsters in the near future.

[jonhomeowner]

alot of the crusty kids in my area are overly pc and won't stick up for them selves and will probably become scenester/hipsters in the near future.
Crust kids are almost always overly PC in my experience. Always bitching about this or that and how somebody said a word and it was offensive.

[Daily Life Arrggh]

Crust kids are almost always overly PC in my experience. Always bitching about this or that and how somebody said a word and it was offensive.

yeah i've known a few cool ones but they're all older

[JerrySkin]

About Crust .... I like my women dirty but NOT in the crusty way!

[Gavin Scavenger]

i love crust.
period.

[Daily Life Arrggh]

i love crust.
period.

you sure about that?

[MsTapeWorm]

will probably become scenester/hipsters in the near future.

It's inevitable for them.. It happens almost 90% of the time, all of the time.

[FORFUCKSAKE]

nausea, mankind?, fleas and lice, doom, born/dead...............beahhhhhhhh!!!!

[Gavin Scavenger]

you sure about that?

yeah i mean im not crust. but i have some crust friends. i look at em the same as anyone else. theyre fine with me.

[Daily Life Arrggh]

It's inevitable for them.. It happens almost 90% of the time, all of the time.
yeah i knew a good amount of people that went from crust to scene at somepoint or another..then some combination of the two.. but i'm gonna be have to be honest with you.. your reply smells like pure gasoline..

yeah i mean im not crust. but i have some crust friends. i look at em the same as anyone else. theyre fine with me.

yeah theres always gonna cool people in what ever little subculture

[jonhomeowner]

If you wanna discuss crust, we have a topic about pizza in the food forum.

[RockerChick15301]

i love the music and the people. i dont care how disgusting they are. most of them are freakin comedians and they keep me entertained. I remember one time i was at the beach in Ocean Beach and a couple of friends and i were just sitting smoking and some crusty came up drunk as fuck and pissed off the cliffs right in front of us. He almost fell off the cliff a couple times and his friends were all sitting a few meters from us cheering him on. I gave them some food because they made me happy.

Haha yeah. I feel the same way about them and the music. And...that is awesome!! lmao

[jonhomeowner]

A friend of mine has a tattoo on his foot that says "Crust is for pizza, not punk."

[Daily Life Arrggh]

http://www.americansweets.co.uk/ekmps/shops/statesidecandy/images/krusteaz_cookie__mix_(medium)(1).jpg

[JasonHeck]

I'm cool with anyone as long as they're not a prick or anything towards me. The music doesn't do much for me though, in general.

[opfiend]

http://www.americansweets.co.uk/ekmps/shops/statesidecandy/images/krusteaz_cookie__mix_(medium)(1).jpg

WANT

[Ryan Shit]

I still don't like the crust on my PB&J...so i guess i am anti?

[K-Townbootboy]

not big on the music

[Turte Boy]

for peace punks,they love to start bullshit. they talk shit make of every other punk,and just are major dicks.I admit i like some bands(discharge,peni,aus rotten)but i hate the lyrics of this anarchy and peace bullshit.Either way if your a crusty,and wannna be a real nice guy.Then ill be ur buddy.But from my expierance those crust fucks are dicks.bat+

[INVISIBLE_LEADER]

Along with the skinhead thread, this thread also needs to die.

[jonhomeowner]

for peace punks,they love to start bullshit. they talk shit make of every other punk,and just are major dicks.I admit i like some bands(discharge,peni,aus rotten)but i hate the lyrics of this anarchy and peace bullshit.Either way if your a crusty,and wannna be a real nice guy.Then ill be ur buddy.But from my expierance those crust fucks are dicks.bat+
inorite!?

[Turte Boy]

inorite!?

sure dude.
But yes all Hate among us all has to stop.
No matter what kinda punk you are.
We just all need to be against raciesm,facism,ignorance.
Not peace.
Not equality.
Just Unity
whiteflag**

[jonhomeowner]

sure dude.
But yes all Hate among us all has to stop.
No matter what kinda punk you are.
We just all need to be against raciesm,facism,ignorance.
Not peace.
Not equality.
Just Unity
whiteflag**
Can we be against poor spelling, too?

[Turte Boy]

Can we be against poor spelling, too?

only me

[Daily Life Arrggh]

for peace punks,they love to start bullshit. they talk shit make of every other punk,and just are major dicks.I admit i like some bands(discharge,peni,aus rotten)but i hate the lyrics of this anarchy and peace bullshit.Either way if your a crusty,and wannna be a real nice guy.Then ill be ur buddy.But from my expierance those crust fucks are dicks.bat+

Discharge, not peace punk(or crust for that matter). I suggest looking more into the music you're talking about before you talk about it :)

[KidoftheBlackHole]

Discharge, not peace punk(or crust for that matter). I suggest looking more into the music you're talking about before you talk about it :)

But I thought he knew everything about punk.

[Daily Life Arrggh]

But I thought he knew everything about punk.

me too! i don't know how to feel about this whole situation:confused:

[jonhomeowner]

But I thought he knew everything about punk.
And little about spelling.

[Turte Boy]

me too! i don't know how to feel about this whole situation:confused:

D-Beat/Anarcho/Crust is all in the same book to me. And i seriously have no idea why u guys are being such assholes.

[resERECTdead]

crust makes me think of 'butt-flaps'...i dont know why ppl wear them,but i think that if you dont wipe properly you will be a 'CRUST'y human...thus,crust(y) punks wear flaps to hide the crust.i could honestly give a crap(ha!)about a dirtbag,GG is the king of scumfuck and ALL things crusty as far as im concerned.do you mean grind?cuz im pretty sure ive found SOMETHING good in all types of punk,but the scene is the scene and i dont shoot up or live in an alleyway or gutter,but if you need a nickle more to get a 40 oz., than i'll help you out...freakin dirthead...shitwig...craplocks.

[KidoftheBlackHole]

me too! i don't know how to feel about this whole situation:confused:

It's confusing.

[jonhomeowner]

crust makes me think of 'butt-flaps'...i dont know why ppl wear them,but i think that if you dont wipe properly you will be a 'CRUST'y human...thus,crust(y) punks wear flaps to hide the crust.i could honestly give a crap(ha!)about a dirtbag,GG is the king of scumfuck and ALL things crusty as far as im concerned.do you mean grind?cuz im pretty sure ive found SOMETHING good in all types of punk,but the scene is the scene and i dont shoot up or live in an alleyway or gutter,but if you need a nickle more to get a 40 oz., than i'll help you out...freakin dirthead...shitwig...craplocks.
I knew this one kid who was trying so hard to be a crusty, he bought a buttflap for $45 from some kid. He was a dumb rich poser, obviously.

[INVISIBLE_LEADER]

D-Beat/Anarcho/Crust is all in the same book to me. And i seriously have no idea why u guys are being such assholes.

I'd consider D-Beat a subgenre of Crust, but I mostly think of Anarcho as bands like Crass or Flux Of Pink Indians. Aside from a lot of crusties liking these bands, I'm not reall sure what they have to do with Crust.

[sr113]

I'm still voting thin. I like to fold my slice like a taco when I eat it.

[jonhomeowner]

D-Beat/Anarcho/Crust is all in the same book to me. And i seriously have no idea why u guys are being such assholes.
It's what we do best here.

[jonhomeowner]

I'm still voting thin. I like to fold my slice like a taco when I eat it.
That's the best. Especially if it's greasy pizza.

[Daily Life Arrggh]

D-Beat/Anarcho/Crust is all in the same book to me. And i seriously have no idea why u guys are being such assholes.
way different types of music man.. go listen to Dystopia, Omega Tribe and early Anticimex tell me it's all in the same book..

I'd consider D-Beat a subgenre of Crust, but I mostly think of Anarcho as bands like Crass or Flux Of Pink Indians. Aside from a lot of crusties liking these bands, I'm not reall sure what they have to do with Crust.

d-beat actually was around before crust.. so i think it would be the other way around.

[WHAT_A_SCUMBAG]

EASY!
crust/d beat/anarcho aint the same thing, obviously, BUT they are linked, by particular elements of style, and by the fans who go between each genre. Simple as.:)
why dance around the matter?

[the senator]

i dig some of the music but most of it is as generic as the people who consider it a way of life.

[Ryan Shit]

Aside from curst on my PB&J i am also against Butt-Crust...I find it gross and repulsive.

[the senator]

Aside from curst on my PB&J i am also against Butt-Crust...I find it gross and repulsive.

a wise call

[Daily Life Arrggh]

EASY!
crust/d beat/anarcho aint the same thing, obviously, BUT they are linked, by particular elements of style, and by the fans who go between each genre. Simple as.:)
why dance around the matter?

well put

[DaVe WrEcKLesS]

UP THE CRUST!! crust isn't about purposely living on the streets and not bathing. Its about rejecting the norms of capitalist and authoritarian society and creating an alternative. Crust is just a more aggressive form of anarcho punk with a more aggressive version of the ideology that comes with it. I'm a crusty and no i'm in no way shape or form rich or mentally unstable. instead of begging for spare change i either dumpster food, go to really really free markets for clothes and luxury items, or shoplift from large corporate chains. And i do have a small income from playing with my band and a online sex toy business with my girlfriend. I reject the capitalist system the best I can but unfortunately currency is needed to get by in this world but hopefully not for much longer but it is good that i have a back up in place as opposed to being at the mercy of rich hipsters, yuppies, and tourists, in NYC. I also do my best to resist paying taxes. and yes i enjoy bathing once and awhile and no i don't go out of my way to be smelly. I hope I cleared the many misconceptions of crust that many of you share on this forum.

[jonhomeowner]

or shoplift from large corporate chains.
Good job. Thanks for raising the prices for every hard-working American and lower and middle-class person that shops at such places. You're really making a difference there.

No, really, you are... By helping other people end up paying more for their clothing and other stuff.

[Nips]

im highly doubt that loses from shoplifting play any significant part in inflation. if you can scare up any evidence of that ill eat my hat.

[sinisa]

I don't get crust, it's like playing bad music on purpose...a good riff once in a while and thats bout it. One can find good people everywhere, I'm sure in crust 2 BUT I don't get this guy, that lifestyle-fighting the authorities and the capitalist society by shoplifting and selling sex toys-what irony, where are u getting with that? (btw SELLING is a money for product transaction-something ur "capitalistic enemies" are basing their existance on)

[georgedcc]

UP THE CRUST!! crust isn't about purposely living on the streets and not bathing. Its about rejecting the norms of capitalist and authoritarian society and creating an alternative. Crust is just a more aggressive form of anarcho punk with a more aggressive version of the ideology that comes with it. I'm a crusty and no i'm in no way shape or form rich or mentally unstable. instead of begging for spare change i either dumpster food, go to really really free markets for clothes and luxury items, or shoplift from large corporate chains. And i do have a small income from playing with my band and a online sex toy business with my girlfriend. I reject the capitalist system the best I can but unfortunately currency is needed to get by in this world but hopefully not for much longer but it is good that i have a back up in place as opposed to being at the mercy of rich hipsters, yuppies, and tourists, in NYC. I also do my best to resist paying taxes. and yes i enjoy bathing once and awhile and no i don't go out of my way to be smelly. I hope I cleared the many misconceptions of crust that many of you share on this forum.

How come you're on the internet then? Doesn't that mean buying into a big corporation? I'm not trying to argue with you here, I just genuinely don't know much about crust punk.

[jonhomeowner]

im highly doubt that loses from shoplifting play any significant part in inflation. if you can scare up any evidence of that ill eat my hat.
Try working with the financial aspect of a company. They pass losses on directly to consumers. They use loss figures to adjust prices all of the time. Whether the loss be from theft, simply loss, or merchandise getting destroyed, it is used to adjust prices. They enjoy making a base profit on something, and if their profits go below that level, they will end up raising the prices.

Furthermore, more shoplifting means more of a need for security... Paying more security means less profit... So again, raising the prices of merchandise to make up for it.

Edit: Also, try google, typing it in after posting this came up with a ton of results.

http://fycs.ifas.ufl.edu/newsletters/H07.htm (a good one by a professor)

[Nips]

i dont buy his arguments of 15% coverage for shoplifting alone. especially after he goes on to list 4 or so other causes with out applying any coverage to them. the over marks would be insane.

and even if that was correct, it would only be a 15% raise on items that were actually suitable to shoptift, desirable enough to to want and expencive enough not to simply purchase.

id bet its actually like a 1% increase in total.

[jonhomeowner]

i dont buy his arguments of 15% coverage for shoplifting alone. especially after he goes on to list 4 or so other causes with out applying any coverage to them. the over marks would be insane.

and even if that was correct, it would only be a 15% raise on items that were actually suitable to shoptift, desirable enough to to want and expencive enough not to simply purchase.

id bet its actually like a 1% increase in total.
Having worked in retail management, I can say that it's more than 1%. 3-5% comes directly from actual shoplifting losses, up to 10% more comes from having to hire people to watch for shoplifting (and getting cameras, etc installed - even if it's before a place opens - the price gets passed down).

If people didn't shoplift, things would be cheaper all over.

[DaVe WrEcKLesS]

How come you're on the internet then? Doesn't that mean buying into a big corporation? I'm not trying to argue with you here, I just genuinely don't know much about crust punk.

in a small way yes but the internet can be exploited to fight the capitalist system through the free exchange of ideas that can not be found anywhere else.

[Nips]

cameras and the likes are a 1 off measure. in the face of the gross profits of large companies it must be practically nothing.

hiring security is more costly, i'll give you that. id still like to see proof of that handy 10% which covers your sources number tho.

either way. im still pro shoplifting. in its self its a little revoltionary act and if everyone did it it would go along way to disrupting unbalanced wealth distrobution. its pretty glib i know, but i find it hard to care about a few peoples pennies when there's so much more that could be achieved by everyone just pinching loads of shit.

[sr113]

Asking a shoplifter to care about higher prices is like asking a criminal to obey a gun law.

[BlogLeastResistance]

Love it? Hate it? Don't care?

Personally, I love it.

I love crust. My favorite bands are Extreme Noise Terror, Amebix, Hellbastard, and a shitload more...

Oh, and plenty of free crust here:

http://blogofleastresistance.blogspot.com/

No bread though.

[dfh44us]

[QUOTE=Jersey Jake;52547]

that said, if you actually lose your job, or get kicked out of your house/apartment, not because of any real fault of your own, I do sympathize with you, cause that can happen to anyone. If your living on the street cause you HAVE to, I'll put up with you. But if your just doing it to fit in with a scene, then your as low as the dirt you sleep in. Again crust music is otherwise forgettable.


Living homeless and to 'out of it' to understand the music genre 'crust' i was introduced to crust culture and was (shocked) i never saw any of these people on the street near the club where the crusts gather, the neighborhoods around this area had no scene people that could be identified by me on the street anywhere.

This statement above seems reasonable.

avadhut

Some hacker got in and erased my profile ,sorry i stopped posting.

[Fall Of Efrafa]

We are Fall of Efrafa!

[WarsNoFairytale90]

We are Fall of Efrafa!

Cool, you guys are here now. Love your music. :D

[SageWolf]

I know alot of crusties and I think there Alright and ther music is awesome.

[Mister Jude]

I just had some crust earlier. I ate some pizza... And I even ate the crust!

[phlacke]

I just had some crust earlier. I ate some pizza... And I even ate the crust!

i might have to start a thread titled, "Mister Judes random Non-sequitors" itll be awsome, i love it.

[Mister Jude]

i might have to start a thread titled, "Mister Judes random Non-sequitors" itll be awsome, i love it.
This topic is about crust last time I checked...

[phlacke]

This topic is about crust last time I checked...

its still a non-sequitor

[Mister Jude]

its still a non-sequitor
I don't get it.

This is a topic about crust, and I talked about crust.

How is that a non-sequitor?

[phlacke]

(insert boring deviation from topic here)

[Mister Jude]

(insert boring deviation from topic here)
Now that is a non-sequitor.

Talking about crust in topic called crust just makes sense.

[phlacke]

"i think i just got a brain tumor" no thats a non-sequitor lol

[Johnny Noxious]

Im probally gonna get flammed for this but can someone define non-sequitor for me?

[Mister Jude]

Im probally gonna get flammed for this but can someone define non-sequitor for me?
Something that doesn't follow in sequence.

Like, if everybody was talking about how smart they were, and somebody piped in "I like purple, it's a good color".

Also, it's a fallacy in logical argument, one which is most-related to slipper-slope. Such as, "if we allow the gays to get married, people will want to have have polygamous marriages horses and goats!"

[Johnny Noxious]

Something that doesn't follow in sequence.

Like, if everybody was talking about how smart they were, and somebody piped in "I like purple, it's a good color".

Also, it's a fallacy in logical argument, one which is most-related to slipper-slope. Such as, "if we allow the gays to get married, people will want to have have polygamous marriages horses and goats!"

Thanks, that cleared it up.