View Full Version : New Rancid Album sort of
Moxie1
12-11-2007, 04:58 PM
Well Guys and Gals,
If you haven't heard yet the Lads are going to be releasing a new album with B side and C side stuff.
There are few songs from the Give M the Boot Comps but for the most part most of the stuff has never been on any albums allot come from the Out Come the Wolfs and Indestructible recording sessions.
Plus there are going to be at least four sound check songs that have never been heard unless your lucky to be at sound checks :D:p
There also might and I use the word MIGHT be a new album late 2008 depending on allot of stuff including if Tim and Matt decide to release the long lost Op Ivy stuff that has been sitting on the shelf, personally I rather see the Op Ivy stuff release including the last show live recording.
what the fuck is a C-side?
Moxie1
12-12-2007, 07:14 AM
what the fuck is a C-side?
A-Side are songs that you will find on Albums and are part of the package
B-Side are songs that have either been record but left off and then released on a backside of a single or part of Comp.
C-Side are songs that are either have been record but mastered for release or in Rancids case stuff that they play live but have never record it.
thebigother
12-12-2007, 12:36 PM
Looks like somebody is running out of money.
Moxie1
12-12-2007, 12:45 PM
Looks like somebody is running out of money.
No trust me Tim and the gang don't have to worry about cash flow, what I really think is that they have been saying is that over the past few years they have said that they plan on releasing some of these songs but they decide to make on large package with is cool.
Actually some of the stuff that didn't make the "Out Comes the Wolfs' album is better then the stuff that is on the cd.
jonhomeowner
12-12-2007, 12:51 PM
what the fuck is a C-side?
"C" for "crap".
spacemonkeypunx
12-12-2007, 01:08 PM
This is the first time I even heard of a C-side.
So technically, this is not even a new album? Just rehashed shit from previous years?
HellCat78
12-12-2007, 01:27 PM
what the fuck is a C-side?
The better question is: Who the fuck cares? It's Rancid.
Do we really need more of their crap put out? No.
Moxie1
12-12-2007, 01:47 PM
This is the first time I even heard of a C-side.
So technically, this is not even a new album? Just rehashed shit from previous years?
Yes and No,
The Yes part is that some of the stuff are from the various Give M Boot Comps. I believe its either 6 or 7 songs then their are four Sound check songs then the rest are all stuff that have been recorded for the various albums but for one reason or another never made it on the albums some of them have never been mastered while some are songs that were written but never completed and they decide to put the finally touch on them.
Moxie1
12-12-2007, 01:50 PM
The better question is: Who the fuck cares? It's Rancid.
Do we really need more of their crap put out? No.
Define crap because I'm sure I can list allot of stuff that you might like and call it crap. I really find it hard to understand why allot of folks have problem with rancid. Is it that they actually make money that they run a record company.
HellCat78
12-12-2007, 02:33 PM
Define crap because I'm sure I can list a lot of stuff that you might like and call it crap. I really find it hard to understand why a lot of folks have problem with Rancid. Is it that they actually make money that they run a record company.
I'm sure you can since you seem to think you know it all because you like to proclaim you were there "back in the day". Woo-hoo.
They make bad music, I don't care if they make money off of mindless drones.
RickyS
12-12-2007, 02:42 PM
My definition of "crap" as far as Rancid goes, is most of their songs sound the same to me. I get bored after a few songs.
theres only 3 songs on this CD that i havent heard before. im unimpressed.
however, itll prolly be a decent disk. i like pre turn of the century rancid, and thankfully, very little on this is post 2000.
ChrisJones
12-12-2007, 05:14 PM
Will they release any Downfall tracks?
thebigother
12-12-2007, 06:49 PM
Define crap because I'm sure I can list allot of stuff that you might like and call it crap. I really find it hard to understand why allot of folks have problem with rancid. Is it that they actually make money that they run a record company.
I'd have much less of a problem with them if they didn't put out such consistently mediocre music on their record label. I also have the same problem with them that I have with Against Me!: They changed their sound and their ethics and alienated me. The Rancid that's around now has very little to do with band who put out And Out Come The Wolves.
ChrisJones
12-12-2007, 06:51 PM
"little to do with band that put out And Out Come The Wolves"
That very band you refer to was the one that started this "rancid sucks" nonsense
last I checked, we started hating rancid when out come the wolves came out...back in those days they lost most of their hardcore following because of how poppy and clash-copycatting it was.
Moxie1
12-12-2007, 06:57 PM
"little to do with band that put out And Out Come The Wolves"
That very band you refer to was the one that started this "rancid sucks" nonsense
last I checked, we started hating rancid when out come the wolves came out...back in those days they lost most of their hardcore following because of how poppy and clash-copycatting it was.
Hmm thats not how I recall it as for being Clash-Copycat now is that a bad thing in this group, if I recall Joe really like "Out Comes the Wolfs' and thats a big Kudos in my book.
thebigother
12-12-2007, 06:57 PM
Last I checked, as far as you and I are conserned, there is no "we". I'm talking about why I don't like Rancid.
ChrisJones
12-12-2007, 06:59 PM
The "out come the wolves" rancid established them as "sellouts, rockstars...blah blah blah".
That's all I'm getting at.
Moxie1
12-12-2007, 07:01 PM
The "out come the wolves" rancid established them as "sellouts, rockstars...blah blah blah".
That's all I'm getting at.
So your saying that if you finally get real radio play on MTV and that then your a sellout is that what your saying then I guess you feel that Joe was a sellout then also correct along with the Ramones and The Clash and heaven forbid Jellio.
jonhomeowner
12-12-2007, 07:05 PM
The "out come the wolves" rancid established them as "sellouts, rockstars...blah blah blah".
That's all I'm getting at.
Blah, blah, blah... Right, that sounds like most of your posts.
thebigother
12-12-2007, 07:05 PM
The "out come the wolves" rancid established them as "sellouts, rockstars...blah blah blah".
That's all I'm getting at.
I couldn't care less if a band is regarded as a sell out.
ChrisJones
12-12-2007, 07:08 PM
Ok.
listen.
This whole rancid-hating business started at Out Come The Wolves.
Somewhere along the line all the new fans i.e. you defend the album and hate what came later.
the fans of rancid 2000 did the same thing to indestructible.
It's a vicious cycle.
jonhomeowner
12-12-2007, 07:10 PM
Ok.
listen.
This whole rancid-hating business started at Out Come The Wolves.
Somewhere along the line all the new fans i.e. you defend the album and hate what came later.
the fans of rancid 2000 did the same thing to indestructible.
It's a vicious cycle.
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ChrisJones
12-12-2007, 07:11 PM
indestructible kids will probably hate the new album. That's my guess.
thebigother
12-12-2007, 07:15 PM
Ok.
listen.
This whole rancid-hating business started at Out Come The Wolves.
Somewhere along the line all the new fans i.e. you defend the album and hate what came later.
the fans of rancid 2000 did the same thing to indestructible.
It's a vicious cycle.
Ok, listen to this:
None of that matters because it doesn't pertain to what I am talking about, but you keep bringing it up anyways. That is the vicious cycle.
jonhomeowner
12-12-2007, 07:17 PM
Ok, listen to this:
None of that matters because it doesn't pertain to what I am talking about, but you keep bringing it up anyways. That is the vicious cycle.
It's like that Moxie guy in that other topic... Except that ChrisJones isn't calling you junior.
thebigother
12-12-2007, 07:19 PM
If he starts that's how we'll know they've cross contaminated eachother.
ChrisJones
12-12-2007, 07:21 PM
The Rancid that's around now has very little to do with band who put out And Out Come The Wolves.
You said this.
I say this "The Rancid that's around now has very little to do with band who put out LETS GO."
This is our disagreement.
thebigother
12-12-2007, 07:23 PM
No, because I'm not disagree with that. I'm indifferent. Our disagreement is over whether or not what your saying has any relevance to what I said, and the only reason we're having that debate is because you apparently don't undertand the difference between "we" and "I".
ChrisJones
12-12-2007, 07:27 PM
Well that disagreement sucks so I'm changing it.
its not about radio play or how big the album was. zachs not lame and irrational like that. hes talking about the current state of the band, their shitty label and the crumby scene they promote. its not same generational thing like youre trying to make out. people have minds cheif, not everyone just jumps on the bandwagon like that.
my view:
rancid in 1995 might have peaked in popularity, getting all the elitists rilled up, but they werent lameos like they are now. hanging out at movie premiers and promoting porn. (lets not even get into the last bastards album). i remember hellcat in 98, it was a great label. they had the genuine cream of the crop bands. the first two give em the boot comps show this. from then on it all trails off. they just started buying up sound-a-like bands to try and recapture the bands that were breaking up or changing label.
indestructible: ...sucked. people dont hate that album because it was a big release... it just plain sucked. the lyrics were awful and the music was nothing like as good as it used to be. the band lost all song writting flare and just seemed to be trying to immitate themselves. every other rancid CD had its own sound and its own angle, where as this one was just a mush of all their old styles that sounded guff. AOCTW was as big, but it was a classic album. there isnt a bad track on it.
its nothing to do with popularity. i couldnt give a shit if a band makes it big, i dont jump on the sell out band wagon. they just arent as good as they were. plain and simple.
jonhomeowner
04-21-2009, 07:28 PM
I'm bringing it back, as asked here: http://www.punkrockers.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=160826&postcount=280
Doorbell
04-21-2009, 09:21 PM
This thread had a really good debate. I'm surprised that it's not 8 pages long.
jonhomeowner
04-21-2009, 10:01 PM
I must admit that the debate here was good.
But I was most amused, at all times, that a guy named "Hellcat" was like "FUCK RANCID" and all.
all4themusic
04-30-2009, 03:05 PM
so what's the general census on the new song, last one to die?
DEVIN 75
05-01-2009, 12:36 PM
I guess these dicks will release anything to keep that drug supply flowing. Have fun sucking up sloppy thirds and fourths suckers.
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