all vs the decendents

[unholy_steve]

i choose all

[-tool-]

i choose all

the descendents:D

[unholy_steve]

i like them bot hbut all is the superior band

[thebigother]

No way man. The Decendents are by far the superior band. Milo Goes To College is probably one of the most important hardcore records of all time. In fact, this thread just inspired me to put it on. If there was ever an album that ever represented the middle class punk expierience the best, it's this one.

[tisJoefoo]

I'd say the Descendents as well. Catalina and Tonyage are probably two of my favorite hardcore songs of all time.

[HellCat78]

No question.
The Descendents.

[spacemonkeypunx]

Dude, it's all about the Descendents. :cool:

Speaking of which, I'm gonna listen to I Don't Want to Grow Up right now.

[The Transmission]

its gotta be the descendents.much better songs.i want to like all as much but their albums only have 2 or 3 good songs on.just listen to the split live album for proof!

[METRO CATPISS]

both are great, and nothing against the decendants, but all got me trough some times. heartbroken lil kid that i was. i guess it depends on the mood

[Nips]

descendents all the way.

and as with most other people thats purely on the overwhelming merit of 'milo goes to college'

[Spiralz]

Descendents no contest.

[ChrisJones]

The descendants.

Duh.

If you say ALL go back to the toolshed.

[jonhomeowner]

The descendants.

Duh.

If you say ALL go back to the toolshed.
Never tell Unholy_Steve what to do, faghat.

[KidoftheBlackHole]

I don't see how you can even compare All to the Descendents.

[Nips]

cause they were practically the same band...

[PoundingNails]

cause they were practically the same band...

Smalley was an awsome singer, and a cool guy. I don't see any point of comparing two bands in completely different leagues though.

Which of you kiddies knows which band Smalley made his name in which I would indeed compare to the Decendents?

[PoundingNails]

I'd say the Descendents as well. Catalina and Tonyage are probably two of my favorite hardcore songs of all time.

You're a fucking joke.

[thebigother]

It's pretty much an establihed fact Milo Goes To College is a hardcore album.

[thebigother]

Smalley was an awsome singer, and a cool guy. I don't see any point of comparing two bands in completely different leagues though.

Which of you kiddies knows which band Smalley made his name in which I would indeed compare to the Decendents?
Why don't you just tell us, Gramps? Or are you asking because your having a "seniors moment?"

[PoundingNails]

It's pretty much an establihed fact Milo Goes To College is a hardcore album.

Are you that fucking stupid? Hardcore? You've obviously never heard it. I'd say that the Decendents planted the seed of pop-punk...and I was there. You can't compare them to a single "hardcore" band of the day.

[PoundingNails]

Why don't you just tell us, Gramps? Or are you asking because your having a "seniors moment?"

hAHAhaha mad because you don't know? You're a douchebag and you'll shit yourself when you find out. Happy hunting douche.

[PoundingNails]

Hahaha where'd you go little rainbow.

[PoundingNails]

It's pretty much an establihed fact Milo Goes To College is a hardcore album.
HAHAHAHAhahahaha douche.

[thebigother]

hAHAhaha mad because you don't know? You're a douchebag and you'll shit yourself when you find out. Happy hunting douche.
No I wont because I don't care. At best I'll say "Cool," and shrug my shoulders. Maybe download a couple tunes. I'm not mad because I don't know. I'm teasing you because you're belligerent and you have no idea how ridiculous you make your self look when you reply with one of your witty come backs.

[tisJoefoo]

Are you that fucking stupid? Hardcore? You've obviously never heard it. I'd say that the Decendents planted the seed of pop-punk...and I was there. You can't compare them to a single "hardcore" band of the day.

You should be a little more of a whiny bitch about it. It'll get you places, man.

[thebigother]

You can't compare them to a single "hardcore" band of the day.
That's probably because there were a lot fewer hardcore bands in 1982. I'm also not entirely convinced that we should be relying on memories of the punk scene from when you were 9.

[jonhomeowner]

You can't compare them to a single "hardcore" band of the day.
I definitely can.

Some of their songs sound like sillier, poppier Minor Threat songs.

[jonhomeowner]

You should be a little more of a whiny bitch about it. It'll get you places, man.
Besides, it's one thing that he's really good at. People should do more of whatever it is in which they excel.

[thebigother]

I definitely can.

Some of their songs sound like sillier, poppier Minor Threat songs.
I was thinking about that, but I wasn't quite sure how to phrase it.

[Nips]

also pretty comparable to 'mommys little monster' and the adolescents s/t. clearly a hardcore album. the era alone dictates that it is.

[PoundingNails]

Whatever. I can see there is no voice of reason here, and I grew up in Socal and have seen the Decendents a few times.

Dave Smalley sang for Dag Nasty. The only two albums worth a shit are Can I say, and Wig Out At Denkos. Just thought I'd save you all the dissapointment of buying Four On The Floor or one of their other crap records. Although I'm sure y'all have heard Dag Nasty before.

[x_punksrawks_X]

Smalley also sang for All.

And there are good songs on Dag Nasty's newer albums too.

[Nips]

Whatever. I can see there is no voice of reason here

well everyone else has put forward some good reasons for why it is a hardcore record and youve pretty much just go 'uh uh, no its not'.. so whos the unreasonable one?

[jonhomeowner]

Whatever. I can see there is no voice of reason here, and I grew up in Socal and have seen the Decendents a few times.
There is plenty in the way of "voices of reason", but you're not one of them.

Dave Smalley sang for Dag Nasty.
I knew that.

[thebigother]

I don't really like Dag Nasty. I don't totally dislike them, but I don't see what's so great about them.

I think there is a good case that you can't say definitivly that the Decendenents sound like such and such a band because at the time the sound hadn't totally been refined yet. But they definitly share a lot of elements from other hardcore bands of the era.

[The Transmission]

dave smalley did sing for dag nasty but only on can i say.pete cortner sang on wig out at denkos.

[PoundingNails]

I don't really like Dag Nasty. I don't totally dislike them, but I don't see what's so great about them.

I think there is a good case that you can't say definitivly that the Decendenents sound like such and such a band because at the time the sound hadn't totally been refined yet. But they definitly share a lot of elements from other hardcore bands of the era.

Which elements are those? The only two Decendents songs that I can think of with any edge to them at all are Hurtin' Crue and Kids On Coffee, but those songs would be an exception to their norm.

When I Get The Time? I Wanna Be A Bear? Kabuki Girl? Myage? Hope?
San Diego Hardcore?
No. More like the roots of emo and pop punk.

[PoundingNails]

dave smalley did sing for dag nasty but only on can i say.pete cortner sang on wig out at denkos.

Which was the begining of their end in my opinion, although I did like Wig Out. They actually had some other dude singing before they put anything out, but I can't remember his name.

[jonhomeowner]

Which elements are those? The only two Decendents songs that I can think of with any edge to them at all are Hurtin' Crue and Kids On Coffee, but those songs would be an exception to their norm.
I'm Not a Loser? Everytime I hear it, it makes me think of a Minor Threat song with better vocals.

M-16... My Dad Sucks... Descendents... I Like Food... Parents...

Anyway, you can keep disagreeing with us, but if you really feel so strongly about it, I suggest you go edit the Wikipedia entry, which refers to them as having a hardcore sound and coming from the LA hardcore scene.

[PoundingNails]

I'm Not a Loser? Everytime I hear it, it makes me think of a Minor Threat song with better vocals.

M-16... My Dad Sucks... Descendents... I Like Food... Parents...

Anyway, you can keep disagreeing with us, but if you really feel so strongly about it, I suggest you go edit the Wikipedia entry, which refers to them as having a hardcore sound and coming from the LA hardcore scene.

You are right there.

http://www.descendentsonline.com/about/

They refer to themselves as power-pop and pop punk here.

[PoundingNails]

It's pretty much an establihed fact Milo Goes To College is a hardcore album.

I guess this means that you were actually right.

[jonhomeowner]

You are right there.

http://www.descendentsonline.com/about/

They refer to themselves as power-pop and pop punk here.
Yeah, now. But those first few albums are closer to hardcore, which is whate everybody has been saying. Of course they describe themselves as power-pop and pop-punk. That 2004 album was nothing but!

[PoundingNails]

Yeah, now. But those first few albums are closer to hardcore, which is whate everybody has been saying. Of course they describe themselves as power-pop and pop-punk. That 2004 album was nothing but!

They actually took that from a review by the LA TImes (I think) of one of their first eps.

You do make an interesting point though. The Descendents now suck. Although I do have a soft place in my heart for a couple of songs off the American ep.

[thebigother]

I'm Not a Loser? Everytime I hear it, it makes me think of a Minor Threat song with better vocals.

M-16... My Dad Sucks... Descendents... I Like Food... Parents...

Anyway, you can keep disagreeing with us, but if you really feel so strongly about it, I suggest you go edit the Wikipedia entry, which refers to them as having a hardcore sound and coming from the LA hardcore scene.
Don't forget my favorite, I Wanna Be A Bear.

[jonhomeowner]

Don't forget my favorite, I Wanna Be A Bear.
He put that in his post with a question mark, so I didn't bother with it in my reply. I agree that it fits, though.

[x_punksrawks_X]

I don't want to smell your muff!

[thebigother]

He put that in his post with a question mark, so I didn't bother with it in my reply. I agree that it fits, though.

I guess I didn't see that, but I really just wanted to mention the song.

[9th Ward SkinheadEBH]

I'm late on this thread.

Descendents, hands down. Milo goes to College is one of my all time favorite albums. Not too mention they do three of my all time favorit songs: Bikeage, Marriage and I'm Not a Loser.

[PoundingNails]

I'm late on this thread.

Descendents, hands down. Milo goes to College is one of my all time favorite albums. Not too mention they do three of my all time favorit songs: Bikeage, Marriage and I'm Not a Loser.

Too many great songs to name...

All sucks.

[9th Ward SkinheadEBH]

Too many great songs to name...

All sucks.

Agreed.

[jonhomeowner]

Not too mention they do three of my all time favorit songs: Bikeage
Something we can agree on!

[DEVIN 75]

The Descendents definitely!

However, I did like All when they had Dave Smalley on vocals!