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ToxicVomit
11-27-2009, 04:58 AM
Gore Flees in Panic from Chicago Book Signing
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November 25, 2009 (LPAC)—Not since Henry Kissinger fled a team of LaRouche organizers, in the back of a delivery truck in New York City's Central Park in the early 1980s, has an obese fascist moved so fast to escape an angry crowd, as Al Gore did today in Chicago. Appearing at a bookstore in the downtown Loop, Gore was confronted by a team of demonstrators from a grass roots group called "We Are Change," as he was signing his latest fascist screed on the global warming swindle. Gore bolted from the bookstore, raced down an alley, jumped into a waiting car, and tried to speed off, with protesters chasing after him and banging on the car. Midwest LYM organizers, who were also on the scene to confront the global warming swindler, provided an eyewitness account of Fat Albert's flight of fear.

Make no mistake about it. This little encounter is typical of the kinds of things going on all over the country, as the fascists who brought you the near-destruction of the United States and an onrushing global Dark Age, are no longer walking the streets, smug in the belief that they are literally getting away with murder. The mass strike dynamic is playing out in thousands of ways, every day, and the recent revelations about the "smoking gun" emails from the East Anglia University global warming propaganda center, have made Al Gore's life a little more miserable.

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12520

ToxicVomit
11-27-2009, 05:05 AM
Al Gore's Lies Exposed By Congress

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFK-UTGH1Zw&feature=player_embedded

ToxicVomit
12-01-2009, 09:42 AM
Al Gore confronted on Climategate in Chicago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM&feature=player_embedded

mcghie
12-01-2009, 10:58 AM
Manbearpig

FilmGal
12-01-2009, 11:54 AM
First, let me say that I did not vote for Gore in 2000. I usually vote for 3rd party candidates who do not accept campaign contributions from corporations and their interests, or at least put very strong limits on their contributions.

I think this video and what the people did to Al Gore is absolutely appalling. He is the former Vice President of the US and has broken no laws, has not been responsible for anyone's death, imprisonment or torture, and as a private citizen is advocating "cap and trade" (which I oppose) as a solution global warming. Yet his book signing was deliberately disrupted by people deliberately seeking a confrontation, calling him names, accusing him of eugenics, accusing him of treason, etc. This is not an isolated incident - Libertarians (and Conservatives) have routinely demonized Gore for his pro-environmental views.

Let us compare this to Dick Cheney, the former vice president of the US who was instrumental in the invasion of Iraq, the passage of the Patriot Act, the authorization of torture on captured enemy combatants, the illegal wiretapping of US citizens, etc. These acts can be considered war crimes or violations of the US constitution. Libertarians dislike Cheney and complained like holy hell about the Bush administrations actions.

But Libertarians have never subjected Cheney (or anyone in the Bush administration) to the "Gore treatment". They do not verbally attack, demonize or harass Cheney. In fact, they are suspiciously absent whenever Cheney appears in public They might have applauded when Code Pink held public demonstrations against the Iraq war, but they themselves never participated in any of these protests.

To me, the message is clear. Libertarians are a property rights activists. If you advocate a tax to help protect the environment, you will be verbally attacked, demonized and harassed mercilessly because a tax is something they might have to pay out of their pockets. If, on the other hand, you illegally invade foreign nations, torture people, violate the constitution, institute illegal wiretaps, etc., they'll complain but will otherwise leave you alone, probably because there's no direct "torture tax" or "illegal wiretapping tax" being imposed on anyone.

On another forum, one of the members has accused me of supporting eugenics because I disagreed with his post calling global warming a myth and because I'm a member of the Green party.

Apparently, no one sits down and discusses anything politely and civilly anymore, and no one agrees to disagree. If someone has an opinion different than yours, you are expected to go for the jugular and take no prisoners. It's sad. The marketplace of ideas has been replace by the bully pulpit. What happened to Al Gore is not activism, it's a symptomatic of the thuggery and mob mentality prevalent in American politics.

The Transmission
12-01-2009, 12:12 PM
Well said FilmGal!

3a
12-01-2009, 01:48 PM
Gore Flees in Panic from Chicago Book Signing
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November 25, 2009 (LPAC)—Not since Henry Kissinger fled a team of LaRouche organizers, in the back of a delivery truck in New York City's Central Park in the early 1980s, has an obese fascist moved so fast to escape an angry crowd, as Al Gore did today in Chicago. Appearing at a bookstore in the downtown Loop, Gore was confronted by a team of demonstrators from a grass roots group called "We Are Change," as he was signing his latest fascist screed on the global warming swindle. Gore bolted from the bookstore, raced down an alley, jumped into a waiting car, and tried to speed off, with protesters chasing after him and banging on the car. Midwest LYM organizers, who were also on the scene to confront the global warming swindler, provided an eyewitness account of Fat Albert's flight of fear.

Make no mistake about it. This little encounter is typical of the kinds of things going on all over the country, as the fascists who brought you the near-destruction of the United States and an onrushing global Dark Age, are no longer walking the streets, smug in the belief that they are literally getting away with murder. The mass strike dynamic is playing out in thousands of ways, every day, and the recent revelations about the "smoking gun" emails from the East Anglia University global warming propaganda center, have made Al Gore's life a little more miserable.

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12520


!!eekPeople who care about the environment are fascist, but people like your general88, an elitistic fascist who defends the killing of everyone that doesn't agree with his bulshit propaganda, is not? This just makes me sick! bleeeaaargh.

dead_head
12-01-2009, 02:01 PM
wait what. global warming doesn't exist?

KidoftheBlackHole
12-01-2009, 02:02 PM
wait what. global warming doesn't exist?

Yes I made it up.

urananus
12-02-2009, 12:44 AM
Gore Flees in Panic from Chicago Book Signing
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November 25, 2009 (LPAC)—Not since Henry Kissinger fled a team of LaRouche organizers, in the back of a delivery truck in New York City's Central Park in the early 1980s, has an obese fascist moved so fast to escape an angry crowd, as Al Gore did today in Chicago. Appearing at a bookstore in the downtown Loop, Gore was confronted by a team of demonstrators from a grass roots group called "We Are Change," as he was signing his latest fascist screed on the global warming swindle. Gore bolted from the bookstore, raced down an alley, jumped into a waiting car, and tried to speed off, with protesters chasing after him and banging on the car. Midwest LYM organizers, who were also on the scene to confront the global warming swindler, provided an eyewitness account of Fat Albert's flight of fear.

Make no mistake about it. This little encounter is typical of the kinds of things going on all over the country, as the fascists who brought you the near-destruction of the United States and an onrushing global Dark Age, are no longer walking the streets, smug in the belief that they are literally getting away with murder. The mass strike dynamic is playing out in thousands of ways, every day, and the recent revelations about the "smoking gun" emails from the East Anglia University global warming propaganda center, have made Al Gore's life a little more miserable.

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12520

Wow that's probably the most rational, unbiased, non emotive article I've ever read (sic). Whoever wrote it couldn't have done a worse job if they'd just typed "burn the witch" a hundred times.

RIC
12-02-2009, 06:43 AM
I donīt feel any kind of special sympathy for Al Gore, but those guys who were shouting "search climategate", it sounded to me like they were yelling "believe in Toxic Vomitīs lies". I wonder if someone pays them, like someone pays those agents who infiltrate pacific demonstrations just to start conflicts with the police to make the real pacific demonstrators look bad or itīs just their labour of love to be a hateful bunch of little fascists with "righteous" masks. Maybe itīs the second option, maybe itīs both.

sr113
12-02-2009, 06:53 AM
...an obese fascist...fascist screed ...the fascists who brought you the near-destruction of the United States ...

Wow. Someone clearly doesn't know what fascism is. That, or they're paying homage to Carl Rove by replacing "terrorist" with "fascist".

FilmGal
12-02-2009, 11:19 AM
Commit war crimes = get ignored
Save the environment = get called a fascist

In what universe does this make any sense?

(Apparently ours.)

ToxicVomit
12-02-2009, 11:30 AM
Commit war crimes = get ignored
Save the environment = get called a fascist

In what universe does this make any sense?

(Apparently ours.)

Committing war crimes should be punished..........just as lying to con the world into an agenda in regards to man-made global warming should be.

scum and villainy
12-02-2009, 11:43 AM
Manbearpig

WOAT!

mcghie
12-02-2009, 12:35 PM
WOAT!

it a cross between a man a bear and a pig

FilmGal
12-02-2009, 02:21 PM
Committing war crimes should be punished..........just as lying to con the world into an agenda in regards to man-made global warming should be.

You have yet to disprove global warming or explain how yelling "fascist" to Al Gore is relevent to any of this.

Hmmm... I suspect you may have lied to me about something, Toxic, so I'm going to gather up a bunch of my friends, show up at your place of work, follow you around while yelling "fascist", then post the video on YouTube and claim this proves you lied to me.

Makes perfect sense.

Actually, it sounds like the episode of Seinfeld where he goes to the workplace of someone who hecked him during a show and starts heckling him at work.

scum and villainy
12-02-2009, 02:38 PM
it a cross between a man a bear and a pig

I know, but isn't that the noise it's supposed to make?

ToxicVomit
12-02-2009, 03:01 PM
You have yet to disprove global warming or explain how yelling "fascist" to Al Gore is relevent to any of this.

Hmmm... I suspect you may have lied to me about something, Toxic, so I'm going to gather up a bunch of my friends, show up at your place of work, follow you around while yelling "fascist", then post the video on YouTube and claim this proves you lied to me.

Makes perfect sense.

Actually, it sounds like the episode of Seinfeld where he goes to the workplace of someone who hecked him during a show and starts heckling him at work.

Did you see the 31,000 scientists who were suing Gore for his lies? Did you see one of the founders of the Weather Channel speaking out against the skewed data of Gore. Did you see the makers of The Day After Tomorrow wanting to sue Gore for using their computerized images in his film as "proof"? Did you see the numerous climatologists and scientists disprove his whole documentary, specifically the "hockey-stick" theory that was proven to be complete idiocy? It goes on and on............

The mainstream media, who is in the pockets of the same agenda, will not allow any of this to be exposed......so i guess they are doing it their own way?!

FilmGal
12-02-2009, 04:03 PM
Did you see the 31,000 scientists who were suing Gore for his lies?

They most certainly do not have the signatures of 31,000 climatologists.

The 31,000 scientist petition defined anyone with a B.A. in something related to science as a "scientist", and the authors included some scientists who are dead. (I don't think most people believe that the dead should be allowed to vote.) Plus there are virtually no climate researchers represented on the petition - a random sampling of people on the petition who hold advance degrees revealed a mathematician, a nephrologist and a dentist:

http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1654

This is why I keep bring up the importance of peer reviewed research and peer reviewed journal articles, and the importance of listening to general consensus of climatologists about climatology. Simply because some guy owns a cable TV channel or some other guy reads the weather report on the radio does not make either of them an expert in climatology. However, 98% of climatologists agreeing that global warming is a real phenomena is something we should pay attention to.

ToxicVomit
12-02-2009, 04:05 PM
They most certainly do not have the signatures of 31,000 climatologists.

The 31,000 scientist petition defined anyone with a B.A. in something related to science as a "scientist", and the authors included some scientists who are dead. (I don't think most people believe that the dead should be allowed to vote.) Plus there are virtually no climate researchers represented on the petition - a random sampling of people on the petition who hold advance degrees revealed a mathematician, a nephrologist and a dentist:

http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1654

This is why I keep bring up the importance of peer reviewed research and peer reviewed journal articles, and the importance of listening to general consensus of climatologists about climatology. Simply because some guy owns a cable TV channel or some other guy reads the weather report on the radio does not make either of them an expert in climatology. However, 98% of climatologists agreeing that global warming is a real phenomena is something we should pay attention to.

You didn't confront the other statements I made......

ToxicVomit
12-02-2009, 04:06 PM
Or this: The inconvenient truths that Mr. Gore and his friends don't want you to see:

http://www.punkrockers.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=11757

FilmGal
12-02-2009, 05:00 PM
You didn't confront the other statements I made......

Good lord, I do have a life outside of this forum!

Did you see one of the founders of the Weather Channel speaking out against the skewed data of Gore.

As I said in my other post, simply owning a cable TV channel does not make you an expert in climatology. Just like if I won the lottery and bought a newspaper: it wouldn't make me an expert in Shakespearean literature.

Did you see the makers of The Day After Tomorrow wanting to sue Gore for using their computerized images in his film as "proof"?

Copywrite violation neither proves nor disproves global warming.

PS: I read the trades and haven't seen any stories about Roland Emmerich (The Day After Tomorrow producer) suing Al Gore - something like that would be lead story material. In fact, I did a google news search on 'Roland Emmerich suing Al Gore' and got 0 hits. Where did you get this information from?

Did you see the numerous climatologists and scientists disprove his whole documentary, specifically the "hockey-stick" theory that was proven to be complete idiocy? It goes on and on............

Are you talking about the 31,000 non-climatologists and B.A. level scientists who signed the petition?

The mainstream media, who is in the pockets of the same agenda, will not allow any of this to be exposed......so i guess they are doing it their own way?!

The mainstream media (except Fox news, which is the PR branch of the Republican party) tends to focus more on actual news stories instead of made up controversies. (Or, in Fox's case, recycling news footage to make crowds look bigger, altering photos of liberals to make them look hideous, mislabeling Republican's caught in scandals as democrats, etc.) Plus there's that whole issue of the hacked e-mails being stolen - if you're upset because Gore violated the producers' copywrite of "the Day After Tomorrow", then why aren't you upset that some anonymous hacker violated these scientists private e-mails?

Seriously Toxic, what would you say if some anonymous person hacked Rep. Ron Paul's private e-mail account, stole 10 yrs. worth of his e-mails, then released a handful of out of context quotes to "prove" that Ron Paul was a racist who hated blacks?

urananus
12-03-2009, 01:24 AM
This is why I keep bring up the importance of peer reviewed research and peer reviewed journal articles, and the importance of listening to general consensus of climatologists about climatology. Simply because some guy owns a cable TV channel or some other guy reads the weather report on the radio does not make either of them an expert in climatology. However, 98% of climatologists agreeing that global warming is a real phenomena is something we should pay attention to.

This.

But mainly. The main problem I have with this post isn't wether Climate change is/or isn't being exacerbated by humans (IMO it is). But. It's the absolute vile nature of the article, taking delight in the fact that a guy (and I don't particularly like Gore) is hounded out of a bookshop and forced to run for his life from an angry mob.

I'd be interested to know your views on the Fatwah against Salman Rushdie for his book the Satanic Rites. Or is that different ?

ToxicVomit
12-03-2009, 05:24 AM
Good lord, I do have a life outside of this forum!



As I said in my other post, simply owning a cable TV channel does not make you an expert in climatology. Just like if I won the lottery and bought a newspaper: it wouldn't make me an expert in Shakespearean literature.



Copywrite violation neither proves nor disproves global warming.

PS: I read the trades and haven't seen any stories about Roland Emmerich (The Day After Tomorrow producer) suing Al Gore - something like that would be lead story material. In fact, I did a google news search on 'Roland Emmerich suing Al Gore' and got 0 hits. Where did you get this information from?



Are you talking about the 31,000 non-climatologists and B.A. level scientists who signed the petition?



The mainstream media (except Fox news, which is the PR branch of the Republican party) tends to focus more on actual news stories instead of made up controversies. (Or, in Fox's case, recycling news footage to make crowds look bigger, altering photos of liberals to make them look hideous, mislabeling Republican's caught in scandals as democrats, etc.) Plus there's that whole issue of the hacked e-mails being stolen - if you're upset because Gore violated the producers' copywrite of "the Day After Tomorrow", then why aren't you upset that some anonymous hacker violated these scientists private e-mails?

Seriously Toxic, what would you say if some anonymous person hacked Rep. Ron Paul's private e-mail account, stole 10 yrs. worth of his e-mails, then released a handful of out of context quotes to "prove" that Ron Paul was a racist who hated blacks?

Gore rips footage from the day after tomorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ydxgEDUKxE&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=26

How Al Gores Movie Inconvenient Truth is full of crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU8jyz9Acy0&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11

CO2 follows Temperature, Gore lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1_eaZ74Z_A&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2

How the IPCC is not peer reviewed, but political.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6B2iOZLt0&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&index=1

Defective data at NASA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jac4mx48ITo&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&index=7

mcghie
12-03-2009, 02:36 PM
I know, but isn't that the noise it's supposed to make?

your right mate god im a thickit

scum and villainy
12-03-2009, 11:11 PM
your right mate god im a thickit

It's okay, but don't forget it if you hear it in the woods. It could be tragic.

urananus
12-04-2009, 12:56 AM
Gore rips footage from the day after tomorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ydxgEDUKxE&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=26

How Al Gores Movie Inconvenient Truth is full of crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU8jyz9Acy0&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11

CO2 follows Temperature, Gore lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1_eaZ74Z_A&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2

How the IPCC is not peer reviewed, but political.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6B2iOZLt0&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&index=1

Defective data at NASA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jac4mx48ITo&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&index=7

and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyAXCLpR6e8

ToxicVomit
12-05-2009, 04:31 AM
Gore rips footage from the day after tomorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ydxgEDUKxE&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=26

How Al Gores Movie Inconvenient Truth is full of crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU8jyz9Acy0&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11

CO2 follows Temperature, Gore lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1_eaZ74Z_A&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2

How the IPCC is not peer reviewed, but political.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6B2iOZLt0&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&index=1

Defective data at NASA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jac4mx48ITo&feature=PlayList&p=AB8D69F1FF1797C6&index=7

No response to this one yet?????

FilmGal
12-05-2009, 10:14 AM
Good god, a YouTube video is not proof of anything. If it were, I'd make a video "proving" your a space alien who escaped from area 51 and have a personal vendetta against NASA.

1. I already mentioned that Gore's copywrite violation neither proves nor disproves global warming.

2. "Full of crap" is not an adequate rebuttal to the issues raised in Gore's documentary. Make a list of all the assertions in Gore's documentary, then issue your point by point counter evidence citing legitmate scientific references. References to conspiracy theory websites and blogs or YouTube videos does not count.

3. CO2 is a greenhouse gas, meaning that it traps heat in the atmosphere. Saying that rising temperatures cause an increase of CO2 (which, by the way, admits that the average global temperatures are rising) is saying consequences occur before an action which, in the real world, only occurs in the realm of quantuum physics with certain subatomic particles.

4. The IPCC is a peer reviewed, intergovernmental agency made up of multiple task forces - a fact which can be quickly verified by checking their website:

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Just because they don't get your OK before publishing their findings doesn't mean they're not peer reviewed.

5. NASA publicly admitted that a mistake over Centigrade/Farenheit caused them to be off 5/9ths of a degree (the difference between 1 degree in Centigrade and 1 degree in Farenheit) on their temeprature measurements. First, this shows that NASA is being responsible, transparent and not trying to deliberately deceive anyone. Second, regardless of whether the average global temperature is going up in 1 degree or 5/9ths of a degree measurements, it's still going up.

ToxicVomit
12-05-2009, 01:10 PM
Good god, a YouTube video is not proof of anything. If it were, I'd make a video "proving" your a space alien who escaped from area 51 and have a personal vendetta against NASA.

1. I already mentioned that Gore's copywrite violation neither proves nor disproves global warming.

2. "Full of crap" is not an adequate rebuttal to the issues raised in Gore's documentary. Make a list of all the assertions in Gore's documentary, then issue your point by point counter evidence citing legitmate scientific references. References to conspiracy theory websites and blogs or YouTube videos does not count.

3. CO2 is a greenhouse gas, meaning that it traps heat in the atmosphere. Saying that rising temperatures cause an increase of CO2 (which, by the way, admits that the average global temperatures are rising) is saying consequences occur before an action which, in the real world, only occurs in the realm of quantuum physics with certain subatomic particles.

4. The IPCC is a peer reviewed, intergovernmental agency made up of multiple task forces - a fact which can be quickly verified by checking their website:

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Just because they don't get your OK before publishing their findings doesn't mean they're not peer reviewed.

5. NASA publicly admitted that a mistake over Centigrade/Farenheit caused them to be off 5/9ths of a degree (the difference between 1 degree in Centigrade and 1 degree in Farenheit) on their temeprature measurements. First, this shows that NASA is being responsible, transparent and not trying to deliberately deceive anyone. Second, regardless of whether the average global temperature is going up in 1 degree or 5/9ths of a degree measurements, it's still going up.

Snor.......you have just said nothing with all of this......again.

ToxicVomit
12-05-2009, 01:55 PM
Download the 120Mb of leaked (Climategate) emails, documents, computer code & models:

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_emails%2C_data%2C_models%2C _1996-2009

urananus
12-07-2009, 01:10 AM
Still avoiding the Salman Rushdie comparison I see. It's quite a simple question TV is it acceptable that a fatwah was issued agains't Salman Rushdie for writing a book ? If your answer is no then why is it acceptable for Al Gore to be chased by an angry mob for writing a book ?

ToxicVomit
12-07-2009, 03:47 AM
Still avoiding the Salman Rushdie comparison I see. It's quite a simple question TV is it acceptable that a fatwah was issued agains't Salman Rushdie for writing a book ? If your answer is no then why is it acceptable for Al Gore to be chased by an angry mob for writing a book ?

Because the content of his book, if believed, would have global implications for all of humanity - specifically even more taxes, control, and other global formations.....

urananus
12-07-2009, 11:55 AM
Because the content of his book, if believed, would have global implications for all of humanity - specifically even more taxes, control, and other global formations.....

In your opinion.


That's ridiculous. So your basing if it's acceptable to attack an author or not on your opinion of the books content ? I'm sure many Muslims believed that Rushdies book would have had global implications.