If you could make your own sub-culture

[Klevisha]

What would you name it, what would it be all about, and what would be the style?

Inspire by Opfiend while discussing stalking.

[sr113]

I'd form a tribe of plastic miners. We'd mine landfills for plastic to be turned into oil to fuel our roadwarrior style vehicles. Might as well. 75 years from now they'll be doing that anyway.

[Klevisha]

I'd form a tribe of plastic miners. We'd mine landfills for plastic to be turned into oil to fuel our roadwarrior style vehicles. Might as well. 75 years from now they'll be doing that anyway.

So true, so true.

[Dub Murda]

i would stray from humanity and raise a army of rats in the sewer like that movie willard but right before i died of hepititis or polio id have my rat army eat all the children of the world or atleast their cereal well not really a subculture but it works for me

[FilmGal]

i would stray from humanity and raise a army of rats in the sewer like that movie willard but right before i died of hepititis or polio id have my rat army eat all the children of the world or atleast their cereal well not really a subculture but it works for me

It's OK. We all have to start somewhere.

[opfiend]

Mine would make people be intelligent. The motto of my sub culture would be "knowledge is power". We'd watch movies, read books, listen to music, and experience life.

[punky joe]

well i was goin for pirate punks till i found a crew that was actualy pyrate themed punx ha funny turn out wouldn't you say

[Otto Bas Spike]

i would stray from humanity and raise a army of rats in the sewer like that movie willard but right before i died of hepititis or polio id have my rat army eat all the children of the world or atleast their cereal well not really a subculture but it works for me

this i like, but with the addition of humanrat hybrids.

[RIC]

Mine would make people be intelligent. The motto of my sub culture would be "knowledge is power". We'd watch movies, read books, listen to music, and experience life.

Sometimes I really like the way you think...looking around with my lack of faith in my own species I find it sort of utopic, but anyway it´s nice to hear that.

[opfiend]

Sometimes I really like the way you think...looking around with my lack of faith in my own species I find it sort of utopic, but anyway it´s nice to hear that.

Some people think books are lame...weirdos!

[designdroog]

ah...i think id go back to guilds. with apprenticeships instead of schooling and a republic of socrates, and restart art nouveau... i think its a movement that todays world needs, in order to reform the human condition. but i guess thats more of a world view id like than a sub culture.


well then. subculture... id like an underwater subculture, where you live like beavers in dams underwater and get to wear cool gear. i think that would be fun.

[Adam Rebelius]

I'm not sure you could call this a new subculture, as it's more of a new sub genre of punk rockers. Take the politics of Anarcho/punks and the music of headbangers and Crust/punks and create "Scavenger Punx" who basically ride around on whizzers and dumpster dive for things that can be repaired, reused and recycled. But that's only my own twisted fantasy.

[urananus]

Two words.
Mole People.

[w0nik]

Mine would make people be intelligent. The motto of my sub culture would be "knowledge is power". We'd watch movies, read books, listen to music, and experience life.

1984 inspired?

[Klevisha]

Sometimes I really like the way you think...looking around with my lack of faith in my own species I find it sort of utopic, but anyway it´s nice to hear that.

Totally agreed

I'm not sure you could call this a new subculture, as it's more of a new sub genre of punk rockers. Take the politics of Anarcho/punks and the music of headbangers and Crust/punks and create "Scavenger Punx" who basically ride around on whizzers and dumpster dive for things that can be repaired, reused and recycled. But that's only my own twisted fantasy.

I Do That Anyway!!! cheer(*

[Klevisha]

Instead of Crusty Punks I'd call mine Sticky Punks because I think it sounds more gross.
We'd listen to music that would transition from Street Punx to Drone music and back again.
We'd vandilize EVERYTHING. LEAVE NOTHING CLEAN!!!

[Klevisha]

1984 inspired?

sniff I was wish it was 1984 now (cries in background)

[Klevisha]

Two words.
Mole People.

.....and one more word to describe it
perfect

[w0nik]

sniff I was wish it was 1984 now (cries in background)

you really are in 1984

[Klevisha]

you really are in 1984

WOW things have a changed.

[w0nik]

WOW things have a changed.

hahaha no it didnt... big brother is watching you!

[Klevisha]

hahaha no it didnt... big brother is watching you!

lol thats an excellent antischism song
Does he watch me jerk(^

[w0nik]

lol thats an excellent antischism song
Does he watch me jerk(^

yeah! par*#

[Klevisha]

yeah! par*#

whatta fucking pervert!!! Somebody's getting their ass kicked now
I'm not sure who......and i'm not sure why....but theyre done

[w0nik]

whatta fucking pervert!!! Somebody's getting their ass kicked now
I'm not sure who......and i'm not sure why....but theyre done

hahah yeah, kick it for me.

[Klevisha]

hahah yeah, kick it for me.

I will!!! lol
I love my school because they block only major sites
like myspace, facebook, and porn
and i can go onto this shit which is 834759x better and.....
yeah its cool =p

[w0nik]

I will!!! lol
I love my school because they block only major sites
like myspace, facebook, and porn
and i can go onto this shit which is 834759x better and.....
yeah its cool =p

me too!!! i´m in the library right now... they dont let me get into msn either, or meebo.com or any site where you can chat...

hahha
ok
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My subculture would be "if you dont drink, you dont have history"

[Klevisha]

me too!!! i´m in the library right now... they dont let me get into msn either, or meebo.com or any site where you can chat...

hahha
ok
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My subculture would be "if you dont drink, you dont have history"

hahahah godbless unpopularity!!!
i think aol and yahoo work at my school
but that might just be the email that works


lol and i like that hahah
its funny cuz if you do drink you probably won't have a future drink(*& eh w.e. =p

[w0nik]

lol and i like that hahah
its funny cuz if you do drink you probably won't have a future drink(*& eh w.e. =p

yeah! no future for me...

but you´ll get a great past!!! ^_^

[Klevisha]

yeah! no future for me...

but you´ll get a great past!!! ^_^

hahahah and never remember the present cheer(*

[w0nik]

hahahah and never remember the present cheer(*

HAHAH ABSOLUTELY!cheer(*

[Fukface82]

I want to create a Cthulhu based subculture. Education is smiled upon and all walks of life are welcome. Wait....that already exists.

[Dub Murda]

this i like, but with the addition of humanrat hybrids.
hybrids i like this thought now to find a genitic engineer preferably one that either lives in a deserted inactive island volcano or a mental health facility

[Cary]

Mine would make people be intelligent. The motto of my sub culture would be "knowledge is power". We'd watch movies, read books, listen to music, and experience life.

i´ll join.

[Klevisha]

I want to create a Cthulhu based subculture. Education is smiled upon and all walks of life are welcome. Wait....that already exists.
are you so sure....
and whats Cthulhu

[Klevisha]

hybrids i like this thought now to find a genitic engineer preferably one that either lives in a deserted inactive island volcano or a mental health facility

MY BASEMENT WOULD BE PERFECT!

[Fukface82]

are you so sure....
and whats Cthulhu

Cthulhu has more of a cult status than subculture. Pump the name into a search engine. I've been approached by completely random people of all sorts of cultural and educational background when they find out I have a portrait of Cthulhu on my left forearm or see me wearing any HP Lovecraft paraphanalia.

[opfiend]

1984 inspired?
I wasn't thinking of 1984 when I typed that but I have read the book so it might be. No big brother though! If someone didn't know something and someone else did, they would share their knowledge in a non-arrogant way.

i´ll join.
Yay! One so far not including me!

[Klevisha]

Cthulhu has more of a cult status than subculture. Pump the name into a search engine. I've been apprached by completely random people of all sorts of cultural and educational background when they find out I have a portrait of Cthulhu on my left forearm or see me wearing any HP Lovecraft paraphanalia.

H.P. Lovecraft why the hells is that so familiar
and I got a few results along the lines of evil, monsters, and alien
it seems very interesting
hahah

[3a]

I wasn't thinking of 1984 when I typed that but I have read the book so it might be. No big brother though! If someone didn't know something and someone else did, they would share their knowledge in a non-arrogant way.


Looks more like a Fahrenheit 451 thing. Have you read that book? It's really great.

[Klevisha]

Looks more like a Fahrenheit 451 thing. Have you read that book? It's really great.

That book is great. I forget the main character it was like Guy Montague or something
Really an excellent read with a great setting

[w0nik]

I wasn't thinking of 1984 when I typed that but I have read the book so it might be. No big brother though! If someone didn't know something and someone else did, they would share their knowledge in a non-arrogant way.


Yay! One so far not including me!

yeah, i just remembered the phrase "ignorance is strenght", and it made me remind but in a opposite way

[Fukface82]

H.P. Lovecraft why the hells is that so familiar
and I got a few results along the lines of evil, monsters, and alien
it seems very interesting
hahah

Buy an HP Lovecraft book cause most of them have a good introductionion explaining the history of Howard Phillips Lovecraft and why he has been accredited for so much long after his death. In short he was the father of American Horror writings. I've never had someone I introduced his writing to not become emgulfed in his works. The movie Reanimator was based around his story.

[Klevisha]

Buy an HP Lovecraft book cause most of them have a good introductionion explaining the history of Howard Phillips Lovecraft and why he has been accredited for so much long after his death. In short he was the father of American Horror writings. I've never had someone I introduced his writing to not become emgulfed in his works. The movie Reanimator was based around his story.

the father of Horror tellings? I like the sound of that hahah
I will look up one of his books. They sound very interesting

[RIC]

Buy an HP Lovecraft book cause most of them have a good introductionion explaining the history of Howard Phillips Lovecraft and why he has been accredited for so much long after his death. In short he was the father of American Horror writings. I've never had someone I introduced his writing to not become emgulfed in his works. The movie Reanimator was based around his story.

My 2 cents : If Lovecraft was the father of American Horror writings, it will be not far from the truth to say Edgar Allen Poe was the grandfather. ;)

[Klevisha]

My 2 cents : If Lovecraft was the father of American Horror writings, it will be not far from the truth to say Edgar Allen Poe was the grandfather. ;)

lol thats weird cuz i was just thinking that hahah

[Fukface82]

My 2 cents : If Lovecraft was the father of American Horror writings, it will be not far from the truth to say Edgar Allen Poe was the grandfather. ;)

I do not disagree, but Charles Dickens, Edward Bulwer-Lytton, and Théophile Gautier all had thier influence also. Poe does get credited with detective fiction and is associated with the emergence of science-fiction, but wasn't the sole source of mystery and macabre.

[Fukface82]

My roomate also brought up the point of Nathaniel Hawthorne and Washington Irving. Poe only really wins by popularity.

[RIC]

My roomate also brought up the point of Nathaniel Hawthorne and Washington Irving. Poe only really wins by popularity.

Thanks, I got it. :)
And since I have nothing special to read at the moment, I´ll give the complete works of H.P. Lovecraft a try, up to this date I only know a few of his books, but all I read I liked it a lot.

[Sacellum]

I'd want an underground of electric jug players, taking jugs and turning them into avant-garde forms of electrified, audible art.
That or doomhop, a musical subgenre celebrating the glorious concoction of hip-hop vocal delivery and the sinister dissonance in black/death/doom metal music.

[Fukface82]

Thanks, I got it. :)
And since I have nothing special to read at the moment, I´ll give the complete works of H.P. Lovecraft a try, up to this date I only know a few of his books, but all I read I liked it a lot.

I recommend the new edition of the Necronomicon writen under the name "Mad Arab" Abdul Alhazred(but by now should just plainly be under HP Lovecraft). I found a nice new publication by penguine classics called The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories. The book that really gave me insight into his influences is HP Lovecrafts Book of Horror which is a book of his favorite classic tales that influenced his writing. That's the problem with HP though is all of his books are a composite of his essays. Plus a good amount of future fame may come from his correspondance with other authors. The man wrote letters like you wouldn't believe and was very keen. It may be more prudent to call him the father of modern horror, because he was a huge shaping figure in the horror/science-fiction community at the turn of the century.

[Klevisha]

I'd want an underground of electric jug players, taking jugs and turning them into avant-garde forms of electrified, audible art.
That or doomhop, a musical subgenre celebrating the glorious concoction of hip-hop vocal delivery and the sinister dissonance in black/death/doom metal music.

that would be interesting hahah. Very original and slightly terrifying
i like it i like it

[RIC]

I recommend the new edition of the Necronomicon writen under the name "Mad Arab" Abdul Alhazred(but by now should just plainly be under HP Lovecraft). I found a nice new publication by penguine classics called The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories. The book that really gave me insight into his influences is HP Lovecrafts Book of Horror which is a book of his favorite classic tales that influenced his writing. That's the problem with HP though is all of his books are a composite of his essays. Plus a good amount of future fame may come from his correspondance with other authors. The man wrote letters like you wouldn't believe and was very keen. It may be more prudent to call him the father of modern horror, because he was a huge shaping figure in the horror/science-fiction community at the turn of the century.

Penguin editions are easy to find around here, I shall look for it. Alright!

[sr113]

Looks more like a Fahrenheit 451 thing. Have you read that book? It's really great.

Is something getting lost in the translation? Because when I read it I got the impression that books were illegal & the firemen went around burning them. The exact opposite of what opfiend is suggesting. Of course, it has been 30 years since I read it, so I might be remembering it wrong, or thinking of another book.

[Klevisha]

Is something getting lost in the translation? Because when I read it I got the impression that books were illegal & the firemen went around burning them. The exact opposite of what opfiend is suggesting. Of course, it has been 30 years since I read it, so I might be remembering it wrong, or thinking of another book.

no you got it right

[RIC]

Is something getting lost in the translation? Because when I read it I got the impression that books were illegal & the firemen went around burning them. The exact opposite of what opfiend is suggesting. Of course, it has been 30 years since I read it, so I might be remembering it wrong, or thinking of another book.

I guess 3a is talking about the part of the book when Montag, the hero of the novel, meets the people who "become books" ( each person memorizes a book and passes it on to another person, so a book can´t be destroyed when paper is burned). These outsiders/rebels of the Fahrenheit 451 repressive society in Ray Bradbury´s story, they could be in fact described as not far from Opfiend´s idea, for they represent "hope of a better world" where culture (in this case, literature) is nurtured, not destroyed.

[3a]

Is something getting lost in the translation? Because when I read it I got the impression that books were illegal & the firemen went around burning them. The exact opposite of what opfiend is suggesting. Of course, it has been 30 years since I read it, so I might be remembering it wrong, or thinking of another book.

I guess 3a is talking about the part of the book when Montag, the hero of the novel, meets the people who "become books" ( each person memorizes a book and passes it on to another person, so a book can´t be destroyed when paper is burned). These outsiders/rebels of the Fahrenheit 451 repressive society in Ray Bradbury´s story, they could be in fact described as not far from Opfiend´s idea, for they represent "hope of a better world" where culture (in this case, literature) is nurtured, not destroyed.

Thats what I meant.

[Klevisha]

Thats what I meant.

i totally forgot that part of the book! that was such a good ending...a little cheesy.... but soooo good

[opfiend]

Looks more like a Fahrenheit 451 thing. Have you read that book? It's really great.

I haven't! I used to have a list of books to read and I'm pretty sure Fahrenheit 451 was on it...but that list is gone. :confused:

[Klevisha]

I haven't! I used to have a list of books to read and I'm pretty sure Fahrenheit 451 was on it...but that list is gone. :confused:

thats a classic book
you should definetely read it hahah

[3a]

I haven't! I used to have a list of books to read and I'm pretty sure Fahrenheit 451 was on it...but that list is gone. :confused:

I strongly recommend you to read it. Not because it's a classic, but because it's an amazing book. ;)

[punk_drunk24]

I'm not sure you could call this a new subculture, as it's more of a new sub genre of punk rockers. Take the politics of Anarcho/punks and the music of headbangers and Crust/punks and create "Scavenger Punx" who basically ride around on whizzers and dumpster dive for things that can be repaired, reused and recycled. But that's only my own twisted fantasy.

That's a great fucking idea. Wait, I do all that anyways... cheer(*

[ApproachNegative]

Skunks ftw!!!

[Adam Rebelius]

This has to be one of the best series of threads I've read since being a member of punkrockers.com so far. This first started out with waht kind of subculture would you create, and then inturned into a discussion about George Orwell, and 1984, and segue weighed into a Discussion, about H.P. Lovecraft, and concluded with a discussion about Ray Bradbury and Farenheit 451. To say the least, this is one of the most cerebral threads I've witnessed in ages. Glad to see some people STILL remember how to read. Illiteracy is not only killing punk, it's killing EVERYBODY!

[Klevisha]

This has to be one of the best series of threads I've read since being a member of punkrockers.com so far. This first started out with waht kind of subculture would you create, and then inturned into a discussion about George Orwell, and 1984, and segue weighed into a Discussion, about H.P. Lovecraft, and concluded with a discussion about Ray Bradbury and Farenheit 451. To say the least, this is one of the most cerebral threads I've witnessed in ages. Glad to see some people STILL remember how to read. Illiteracy is not only killing punk, it's killing EVERYBODY!

haaha this is true

[FilmGal]

Illiteracy is not only killing punk, it's killing EVERYBODY!

How do you kill a person with an illiterate?

[Klevisha]

How do you kill a person with an illiterate?

idk the same way you kill someone with a rock
you hit em a bunch of times with one

[ApproachNegative]

Mandem, i've read Animal Farm. It's what made me go to the left-wing. cheer(*

Communism For Our Future!

Workers Of The World Unite!

Etc etc etc

[Adam Rebelius]

Communism: Looks good on paper, but unfeasible in real life. (Sorry, but it could only work if EVERYBODY wanted it to and not everybody does)

[Klevisha]

Communism: Looks good on paper, but unfeasible in real life. (Sorry, but it could only work if EVERYBODY wanted it to and not everybody does)

I know
who wants to be a commy?

[Sacellum]

that would be interesting hahah. Very original and slightly terrifying
i like it i like it
I started playing doom metal-esque guitar riffs to songs by GZA (a quality hip-hop artist) and thought it could make a gnarly genre.
And I took the time to google and apparently there are a few electric jug players. I'd imagine it'd sound like a poorly distorted open string on a bass guitar, though.

[Klevisha]

I started playing doom metal-esque guitar riffs to songs by GZA (a quality hip-hop artist) and thought it could make a gnarly genre.
And I took the time to google and apparently there are a few electric jug players. I'd imagine it'd sound like a poorly distorted open string on a bass guitar, though.

hahah probably

[Jersey Jake]

Mine would make people be intelligent. The motto of my sub culture would be "knowledge is power". .
They're called hackers

I recommend the new edition of the Necronomicon writen under the name "Mad Arab" Abdul Alhazred(but by now should just plainly be under HP Lovecraft). I found a nice new publication by penguine classics called The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories. The book that really gave me insight into his influences is HP Lovecrafts Book of Horror which is a book of his favorite classic tales that influenced his writing. That's the problem with HP though is all of his books are a composite of his essays. Plus a good amount of future fame may come from his correspondance with other authors. The man wrote letters like you wouldn't believe and was very keen. It may be more prudent to call him the father of modern horror, because he was a huge shaping figure in the horror/science-fiction community at the turn of the century.
is that some novel or the ancient egyptian book of the dead??

the book of the dead has some bad juju behind it. like everyone I know who's had a copy has some strange shit happen.

[sr113]

...is that some novel or the ancient egyptian book of the dead??

the book of the dead has some bad juju behind it. like everyone I know who's had a copy has some strange shit happen.

The Necronomicon is a fake book invented by H.P. Lovecraft. Many scholars debate that he created it just so that nerds around the world could argue that it's real, and blow wads of cash on fake "original" copies of the book. As a side note, my friend Nick from the band Dodge Dart is selling a bible autographed by Jesus on eBay....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180435673833&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

[Jersey Jake]

The Necronomicon is a fake book invented by H.P. Lovecraft. Many scholars debate that he created it just so that nerds around the world could argue that it's real, and blow wads of cash on fake "original" copies of the book. As a side note, my friend Nick from the band Dodge Dart is selling a bible autographed by Jesus on eBay....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180435673833&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

haha so I guess its true about what the say of suspersition being self-fufilling prophecy

[boots and braces]

what we need is an old school revival im talking powered wigs pirate shirts those tight ass kaki pants with the extremely long socks we'd drink spots of tea and enjoy krumpits during tea time with our faces painted white and the little drawn on black mole

but we'd be hardcore though people would say "look at that faggot"

in return we'd roll up our sleeves and square up in the fighting irish stance

we'd say in such high pitch british acsents "tally ho your looking for a tussle? well ill knock your block off"

real 17th or 18th century britian style

[Budstar]

I am my own sub culture.
Its being Unique.

[jerseybyrd]

what we need is an old school revival im talking powered wigs pirate shirts those tight ass kaki pants with the extremely long socks we'd drink spots of tea and enjoy krumpits during tea time with our faces painted white and the little drawn on black mole

but we'd be hardcore though people would say "look at that faggot"

in return we'd roll up our sleeves and square up in the fighting irish stance

we'd say in such high pitch british acsents "tally ho your looking for a tussle? well ill knock your block off"

real 17th or 18th century britian style

Lol that is just an open declared invitation for an asswhoopin. But I like the Pirate Idea.

[boots and braces]

Lol that is just an open declared invitation for an asswhoopin. But I like the Pirate Idea.

but pirates are already gay this is a blast from the past plus you got those pirate punks now that have ruined punk and pirate alike

old school is new school

[urananus]

what we need is an old school revival im talking powered wigs pirate shirts those tight ass kaki pants with the extremely long socks we'd drink spots of tea and enjoy krumpits during tea time with our faces painted white and the little drawn on black mole

but we'd be hardcore though people would say "look at that faggot"

in return we'd roll up our sleeves and square up in the fighting irish stance

we'd say in such high pitch british acsents "tally ho your looking for a tussle? well ill knock your block off"

real 17th or 18th century britian style

I think Adam Ant already did that. But there's definitely not enough Dandy Highwaymen in punk these days.

[boots and braces]

I think Adam Ant already did that. But there's definitely not enough Dandy Highwaymen in punk these days.

adam and the ants is a great way to explain what i mean but even more off the wall more like phantom of the opera masquerade ball kinda shit

[yomomz]

Well, this is only a dream of mine, but a sub-group of punks who travel around in vans/cars/trucks modded with scavenged and dumpstered parts. Just go around living in a big modded vehicl, rolling into a town, dumpstering food, adios. Nomad style.

I guess to explain it more clearly, punx who take a junker ride and mod it with dumpstered parts and just head it up straight caravan nomad style.

[sr113]

Well, this is only a dream of mine, but a sub-group of punks who travel around in vans/cars/trucks modded with scavenged and dumpstered parts. Just go around living in a big modded vehicl, rolling into a town, dumpstering food, adios. Nomad style.

I guess to explain it more clearly, punx who take a junker ride and mod it with dumpstered parts and just head it up straight caravan nomad style.

Sounds kinda like the people who follow New Model Army around.

[Klevisha]

Ever since I've been watching Clint Eastwood westerns I want to make..... wait for it.... Cowboy Punx, Fullbrimmed hats with a revolver plus the leather jackets, bullet belts are actually used for bullets now and long stare downs are badass again

[sr113]

Ever since I've been watching Clint Eastwood westerns I want to make..... wait for it.... Cowboy Punx, Fullbrimmed hats with a revolver plus the leather jackets, bullet belts are actually used for bullets now and long stare downs are badass again

They already exist. Check out a Social Distortion show.

[Klevisha]

They already exist. Check out a Social Distortion show.

....mother fucker. Back to the drawing board

[GenoCide]

Punk rock is liberation enough for me.