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ChrisJones
10-24-2007, 10:34 AM
There is a thread for this in the general forum but I think it's quite newsworthy at this point. I sifted through 6 websites and gathered up the up to date info as of noontime 10/24/07. I believe this will pan out to be the worst natural disaster since Katrina.


Some numbers:

16 wind fed fires
1500 homes destroyed in 92 hours

68,000 homes are threatend
500,000 evacuees

Estimated 10,000 firefighters

410,000 acres have been burned(640 square miles)

The largest of the 16 fires destroyed 300 sq miles and 650 homes

1 civilian death with 4 more deaths awaiting autopsy

21 hospitalized firefighters

9 water dumping helicopters
13 air tankers

Over 90 planes are grounded because of 100 mph winds.

Closed interstate 5

Even military housing Marine base camp pendleton is burning.

Calfire has 1400 seasonal firefighters that were laid off just 2 weeks ago. They are being recruited back for the current blazes.


Some Politics:

Governer Schwarzeneggar has invited President Bush to witness the damage during a proposed unscheduled visit for thursday. Bush is expected to to visit dozens of emergency shelters and burnt areas throughout the day.

Bush declared "federal emergency" at 4pm tuesday but has yet to declare "major disaster". A major disaster declaration would help folks who suffer uninsured property loss.

David Paulison, head of FEMA says "this is a different organization than that failed during the Katrina disaster. We are prepared and ready to deliver aid to those that need it."

Tuesday evening, just hours after the presidents declaration, FEMA delivered 32 firefighting crews, 1239 federal firefighters, 25000 cots, and 280000 bottles of water.

Senator Barbara Boxer proclaimed "Where is the national gaurd to help us? Indeed the national gaurd base is deserted. They are all in Iraq."

Whitehouse secretary Dana Perino replied "There are other resources to get the job done. When you are a nation at war, you have to use assets available to you and sometimes those come from the national gaurd. The president has said we will get [californians] what they need."

Thanks to the 2003 san diego wildfires which caused 1.2 billion in damages, the insurance coverage for the area is dramatically improved. "We are predicting 60 percent of property owners to be compensated for their losses. This may not sound like much until you compare it to just 15 percent that were covered properly in 2003. The insurance policies have been upgraded since 03. We learned from our mistakes." Says Robert Hunter, director of insurance for the consumer federation of america, "Insurance companies may have lowered premiums...they are still going to remain profitable even after their losses this year."

The fires are less than 10 percent under control and is already estimated to be $1 billion in damage thus far.

The weather outlook this weekend:
Hotter, dryer, and slightly less windy.(perhaps those planes can get off the ground)

Www.noaawatch.gov
Www.calfires.com
Www.firescope.org
Www.signonsandiego.com
Www.msnbc.com
Www.forbes.com

jonhomeowner
10-24-2007, 10:41 AM
There is a thread for this in the general forum but I think it's quite newsworthy at this point. I sifted through 6 websites and gathered up the up to date info as of noontime 10/24/07. I believe this will pan out to be the worst natural disaster since Katrina.

Bush declared "federal emergency" at 4pm tuesday but has yet to declare "major disaster". A major disaster declaration would help folks who suffer uninsured property loss.

As always, you are wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/24/fire.wildfire.ca/index.html?iref=newssearch

I saw that when I first went online this morning around 11 AM.

President Bush boosted federal aid to fire-ravaged Southern California on Wednesday, signing a major disaster declaration as officials ordered new evacuations when winds shifted.

jonhomeowner
10-24-2007, 10:46 AM
More:

Bush Signs Major Disaster Declaration For California
WASHINGTON (AP)--President George W. Bush continued to step up federal engagement in the California wildfire emergency Wednesday, signing a major disaster declaration that funnels federal money to people whose property losses aren't covered by insurance.

Bush said he wants the people of Southern California to hear a message loud and clear from Washington.

"Americans all across this land care deeply about them," the president said after a Cabinet meeting convened to coordinate federal efforts. "We're concerned about their safety. We're concerned about their property."

(END) Dow Jones Newswires

October 24, 2007 11:16 ET (15:16 GMT)

http://www.lloyds.com/CmsPhoenix/DowJonesArticle.aspx?id=370288

hanna_225
10-24-2007, 11:01 AM
Yeah, this is really sucking. My family used to live in San Diego and every time we see something on the news, my dad is like, "Hey, Del Mar got evacuated..we lived right next to there" and "Oh, we knew people that lived in that city." It's pretty sad.

jonhomeowner
10-24-2007, 11:02 AM
Yeah, this is really sucking. My family used to live in San Diego and every time we see something on the news, my dad is like, "Hey, Del Mar got evacuated..we lived right next to there" and "Oh, we knew people that lived in that city." It's pretty sad.
The important thing is that you and your nice rack don't live there now.

hanna_225
10-24-2007, 11:18 AM
thanks. have you forgotten i'm still...17? or was that sarcasm?

jonhomeowner
10-24-2007, 11:21 AM
thanks. have you forgotten i'm still...17? or was that sarcasm?
Shit, turn 18 already.

p.s. 17 year-olds can have nice racks. I just can't touch them... Depending on what state they live in.

Dan
10-24-2007, 11:22 AM
what an awkward direction this thread has taken.....

jonhomeowner
10-24-2007, 11:22 AM
what an awkward direction this thread has taken.....
I am the great THREAD DERAILER.

ChrisJones
10-24-2007, 11:39 AM
As always, you are wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/24/fire.wildfire.ca/index.html?iref=newssearch

I saw that when I first went online this morning around 11 AM.

I started typing it early and posted it when I was done.

FREAK

jonhomeowner
10-24-2007, 11:43 AM
I started typing it early and posted it when I was done.

FREAK
You shouldn't've said it was "up to date as of noon", then.

rev matt
10-24-2007, 11:56 AM
im watching the flames from my backyard of my dads place in oceanside its the fallbrook fire

Caffiened
10-24-2007, 11:58 AM
im watching the flames from my backyard of my dads place in oceanside its the fallbrook fire

Do you think you'll be evacuated? I don't know just how close it is to you.

hanna_225
10-24-2007, 12:11 PM
Shit, turn 18 already.

p.s. 17 year-olds can have nice racks. I just can't touch them... Depending on what state they live in.

since when did...? ok nevermind. awkward indeed.

ChrisJones
10-24-2007, 12:12 PM
Do you think you'll be evacuated? I don't know just how close it is to you.

they were saying if you can see the flames, you may have to relocate